<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">To all who responded to my assignment post, thank you! You all are amazing, and I appreciate your amazingness, as well as your kindness in sharing your wisdom. <div><br></div><div>Dale & Kevin (& anyone else I missed), thank you for case cites!</div><div><br></div><div>I drafted a new (still 1 page) assignment with the language we've been discussing, and now have the legal support I need to ask my counterpart to sign anew. I don't always include reps and warranties in an assignment, though maybe this is a red flag that warrants that. </div><div><br></div><div>I will offer an addendum as well, in case that's more palatable. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again, friends!</div><div><br></div><div>I appreciate the support.</div><div><br></div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Lara Pearson, Esq.</div><div>Law Office of Lara Pearson Ltd, PBC & Brand Geek</div><div>775.833.1600</div><div>Calendly.com/BrandGeek (let's meet)</div><div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Creative typoing by iPhone</span></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 8, 2024, at 2:26\u202fPM, Dale Quisenberry via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff
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to sue and recover for past infringement, then, at least the last time I looked, the law treats that as a jurisdictional requirement that subject matter jurisdiction exist at the time the lawsuit is filed, and it cannot be retroactively cured.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Cc: </b>Janet Satterthwaite <jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Assigning right to sue for past infringements</span>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US">That\u2019s a block quote from the case cite at the bottom by the way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 8, 2024 3:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kevin Grierson <kgrierson@cm.law><br>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US">Same for trademarks. We are in the process of filing a motion to dismiss in a TM infringement case for exactly that reason.
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US">A predecessor's assignment of a trademark carries no right to sue for past infringement, unless the assignment explicitly states that it includes such a right<i>. George W. Luft Co. v. Zande Cosmetic Co.</i>, 142 F.2d
536, 541 (2d Cir. 1944) (explaining that an assignment does not convey existing claims for trademark or patent infringement, but a transfer of all of a corporation's assets would include existing causes of action for both);
<i>see H&J Foods, Inc. v. Reeder</i>, 477 F.2d 1053, 1056 (9th Cir. 1973) (holding that pre-assignment damages are disfavored, and only allowed when the right to sue is clearly spelled out in the assignment);
<i>Bulte v. Igleheart Bros.</i>, 137 F. 492, 493 (7th Cir. 1905) (noting that the plaintiff had received all interest in the trademark at issue, including the rights of action for past infringement);
<i>Lanard Toys, Ltd. v. Novelty Inc.</i>, 511 F. Supp. 2d 1020, 1030 (C.D. Cal. 2007) (holding that the plaintiff had standing to sue for trademark infringement where the assignment included "the right to sue on existing causes of action");
<i>Fair Undercar Care, Inc. v. Wakefield</i>, No. 91 C 7021, 1992 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 10120, 1992 WL 162970, at *2 (N.D. Ill. July 7, 1992) (involving a trademark assignment that included "the right to sue for past infringement"). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><i><span lang="EN-US">Persis Int'l, Inc. v. Burgett, Inc.</span></i><span lang="EN-US">, No. 09 C 7451, 2011 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 115410, at *7-9 (N.D. Ill. Sep. 26, 2011).
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I agree. And on the patent side, there is case law going back to a late 1800\u2019s Supreme Court case called Moore v. Marsh (and more recently in Federal Circuit cases such as Arachnid) that say
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<p class="xmsonormal">That language has always been part of basically every assignment I\u2019ve ever seen. Curious why, if it is already included, counsel pushed back on what is then essentially a belt and suspenders approach.
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Hi list friends: I hope this finds you smiling. In the past couple years I have included a provision in trademark assignments that allows for the assignee to act on and recover for past infringements.
A counterpart's counsel recently pushed</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In the past couple years I have included a provision in trademark assignments that allows for the assignee to act on and recover for past infringements. A counterpart's counsel recently pushed back on this saying that a basic assignment of the Mark & goodwill automatically included those rights. I cannot recall when exactly, nor why, I started including that specific past infringement language in my assignments.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would love to hear your thoughts on whether including this extra language is prudent, necessary, or unnecessary, and why. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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