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<p class="MsoNormal">I don\u2019t see why not. The original assignment wasn\u2019t an assignment in gross or otherwise defective, it just didn\u2019t include all the rights that the original owner could have conveyed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Assigning right to sue for past infringements<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Can the assignor rectroactively amend the assignment to include that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 8, 2024 3:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kevin Grierson <<a href="mailto:kgrierson@cm.law">kgrierson@cm.law</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Assigning right to sue for past infringements</span>
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<p class="xmsonormal">That\u2019s a block quote from the case cite at the bottom by the way.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Same for trademarks. We are in the process of filing a motion to dismiss in a TM infringement case for exactly that reason.
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<p class="xmsonormal">A predecessor's assignment of a trademark carries no right to sue for past infringement, unless the assignment explicitly states that it includes such a right<i>. George W. Luft Co. v. Zande Cosmetic Co.</i>, 142 F.2d 536, 541 (2d Cir.
1944) (explaining that an assignment does not convey existing claims for trademark or patent infringement, but a transfer of all of a corporation's assets would include existing causes of action for both);
<i>see H&J Foods, Inc. v. Reeder</i>, 477 F.2d 1053, 1056 (9th Cir. 1973) (holding that pre-assignment damages are disfavored, and only allowed when the right to sue is clearly spelled out in the assignment);
<i>Bulte v. Igleheart Bros.</i>, 137 F. 492, 493 (7th Cir. 1905) (noting that the plaintiff had received all interest in the trademark at issue, including the rights of action for past infringement);
<i>Lanard Toys, Ltd. v. Novelty Inc.</i>, 511 F. Supp. 2d 1020, 1030 (C.D. Cal. 2007) (holding that the plaintiff had standing to sue for trademark infringement where the assignment included "the right to sue on existing causes of action");
<i>Fair Undercar Care, Inc. v. Wakefield</i>, No. 91 C 7021, 1992 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 10120, 1992 WL 162970, at *2 (N.D. Ill. July 7, 1992) (involving a trademark assignment that included "the right to sue for past infringement"). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><i>Persis Int'l, Inc. v. Burgett, Inc.</i>, No. 09 C 7451, 2011 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 115410, at *7-9 (N.D. Ill. Sep. 26, 2011).
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I agree. And on the patent side, there is case law going back to a late 1800\u2019s Supreme Court case called Moore v. Marsh (and more recently in Federal Circuit cases such as Arachnid)
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-GB">That language has always been part of basically every assignment I\u2019ve ever seen. Curious why, if it is already included, counsel pushed back on what is then essentially a belt and suspenders approach.
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Hi list friends: I hope this finds you smiling. In the past couple years I have included a provision in trademark assignments that allows for the assignee to act on and recover for
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<pre><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In the past couple years I have included a provision in trademark assignments that allows for the assignee to act on and recover for past infringements. A counterpart's counsel recently pushed back on this saying that a basic assignment of the Mark & goodwill automatically included those rights. I cannot recall when exactly, nor why, I started including that specific past infringement language in my assignments.</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would love to hear your thoughts on whether including this extra language is prudent, necessary, or unnecessary, and why. </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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