<div dir="ltr">I assume the USPTO will allow me to bill them for an hour a day for complying with this best practice.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 1:50\u202fPM Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>You don&#39;t do that? And every state and federal docket in the
      country, and any administrative board, in case someone is
      impersonating you there too? Oh, and how about patents, you mean
      you don&#39;t check those too? And state trademark registries?<br>
    </p>
    <p>Pam<br>
    </p>
    <div>Pamela S. Chestek<br>
      Chestek Legal<br>
      300 Fayetteville St.<br>
      Unit 2492<br>
      Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
      +1 919-800-8033<br>
      pamela@chesteklegal<br>
      <a href="http://www.chesteklegal.com" target="_blank">www.chesteklegal.com</a></div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>On 10/26/2024 1:37 PM, Laura Geyer via
      E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">EVERY SIX HOURS???? <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:rgb(23,78,134)">Laura
                Talley Geyer</span></b><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"> |
            </span><b><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Of
                Counsel</span></b><span style="color:black">
            </span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:rgb(23,78,134)"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:rgb(23,78,134)">ND
                Galli Law LLC</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>1200 G Street,
              N.W., Ste 800<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Washington, DC
              20005<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Tel: (202)
              599-9019 (direct)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="https://ndgallilaw.com/laura-geyer/" target="_blank">https://ndgallilaw.com/laura-geyer/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="https://ndgallilaw.com/" target="_blank">https://ndgallilaw.com/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
                E-trademarks
                <a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a>
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 26, 2024 1:14 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
                laypersons to seek legal advice.
                <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <a href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com" target="_blank">&lt;carl@oppedahl.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Attorney Identity
                Theft<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">EXTERNAL EMAIL</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
        <div>
          <p>Given that almost all of this risk comes from poor design
            of USPTO systems, I think the stakeholder that needs to
            comply with a higher standard of care is the USPTO.<u></u><u></u></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On 10/26/2024 8:52 AM, Emil Ali via
              E-trademarks wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">In
                a recent OED case of mine, OED suggested that attorneys
                have a responsibility to search their own name every six
                hours because there are actors that will file an
                application using the name and credentials of another,
                then immediately file a withdrawal.<u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Needless
                to say, I don\u2019t believe that is the standard of care
                required.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Emil
                            J. Ali</b><u></u><u></u></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">PARTNER<br>
                          <b>P:</b> 310.596.1234  |  <b>C:</b> 202.556.3645
                           |  <b>F:</b> 310.649.7890<br>
                          <a href="mailto:emil@mccabeali.com" target="_blank">emil@mccabeali.com</a>
                          <u></u><u></u></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><img style="width: 1.875in; height: 0.3333in;" id="m_7733093632035027674Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:ii_192ca14a6d74ce8e91" alt="McCabe &amp; Ali, LLP" width="180" height="32" border="0"><u></u><u></u></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">13337
                          South Street, Suite 555, Cerritos, CA 90703<br>
                          O: 877.633.4097  | <a href="http://mccabeali.com" target="_blank">mccabeali.com</a>  <u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:
                        </b>E-trademarks <a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a>
                        on behalf of Jeremy Green Eche via E-trademarks
                        <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a><br>
                        <b>Date: </b>Friday, October 25, 2024 at 6:40<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM<br>
                        <b>To: </b>For trademark practitioners. This is
                        not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
                        <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a><br>
                        <b>Cc: </b>Jeremy Green Eche <a href="mailto:jeremy@jpglegal.com" target="_blank">&lt;jeremy@jpglegal.com&gt;</a><br>
                        <b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Attorney
                        Identity Theft<u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Dockettrak
                        tracks your trademarks by correspondent email
                        address, so that wouldn&#39;t tell you if somebody
                        was filing trademarks in your name using a
                        different email address.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">I
                          don&#39;t blame non-TM attorneys for not checking
                          the database regularly. There are many
                          different settings in which people might
                          pretend to be you and you can&#39;t monitor all of
                          them.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                \u2014<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Jeremy<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Jeremy
                                            Peter Green Eche<br>
                                            Founder and Managing
                                            Attorney, JPG Legal<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Office: (917) 268-7054 |
                                            Direct: (917) 310-2207<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.jpglegal.com" target="_blank">www.jpglegal.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">157
                                                13th Street, Suite 111<br>
                                                Brooklyn, NY 11215<u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">On
                          Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 6:08<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM
                          Lindsey Corbin via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">We
                            use DocketTrak and it searches based on the
                            attorney.  You receive an email if a new
                            record is added, so you can easily monitor
                            for fraudulent applications.  Having said
                            that, I agree with Carl - non TM
                            attorneys/paralegals would have no clue how
                            to search their credentials.  <u></u><u></u></p>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                          </div>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">On
                              Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 3:01<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM
                              Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                              wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                          <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                            <div>
                              <p>Over the past couple of years I looked
                                at several clusters of trademark filings
                                where it turned out some lawyer&#39;s name
                                had been appropriated.  In each case
                                that I looked at, the victim was a
                                lawyer who had never touched a trademark
                                file ever before in his or her life.<u></u><u></u></p>
                              <p>Those lawyers are not going to have a
                                clue that it is somehow important to
                                make a stop at the USPTO web site once a
                                month to do a search for their own name
                                in the trademark search system.<u></u><u></u></p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                  10/25/2024 3:43 PM, Annette Heller via
                                  E-trademarks wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">To
                                      monitor your applications on a
                                      regular basis by doing a search on
                                      your name and see what comes up. 
                                      I do a search on a monthly basis
                                      and have a follow up to remind me.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Annette<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Annette
                                        P. Heller<br>
                                        Trademark/Copyright Attorney<br>
                                        TM Law &amp; Associates<br>
                                        400 Chesterfield Center Ste 400<br>
                                        Chesterfield [St Louis] MO 63017<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <a href="http://www.trademarkatty.com/" target="_blank">www.TrademarkAtty.com</a><br>
                                        <br>
                                        314-469-2610 Fax 314-469-4850<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">In
                                    a message dated 10/25/2024 11:55:22
                                    AM Central Daylight Time,
                                    <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>
                                    writes:
                                    <u></u><u></u></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                                            <p>This is absolutely
                                              terrible. What would be a
                                              good way to prevent such
                                              identity theft?<u></u><u></u></p>
                                            <p> <u></u><u></u></p>
                                            <p>Maria<u></u><u></u></p>
                                            <p><strong><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">--------------------------</span></strong><u></u><u></u></p>
                                            <p><em><b><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Maria
                                                    Eliseeva</span></b></em><u></u><u></u></p>
                                            <p><em><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Patentbar
                                                  International</span></em><u></u><u></u></p>
                                            <p><em><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">617-332-5800</span></em><u></u><u></u></p>
                                            <p><em><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:maria@patentbar.com" target="_blank">maria@patentbar.com</a>
                                                </span></em><u></u><u></u></p>
                                            <p><em><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.patentbar.com/" target="_blank">www.patentbar.com</a>
                                                </span></em><u></u><u></u></p>
                                            <p> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                                                  <p><strong><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">From:</span></strong>
                                                    E-trademarks
                                                    <a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a>
                                                    <strong><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">On
                                                        Behalf Of </span></strong>Diane
                                                    Gardner via
                                                    E-trademarks<br>
                                                    <strong><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Sent:</span></strong>
                                                    Friday, October 25,
                                                    2024 12:23 PM<br>
                                                    <strong><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">To:</span></strong>
                                                    <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">
e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
                                                    <strong><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Cc:</span></strong>
                                                    Diane Gardner
                                                    <a href="mailto:diane@mmip.com" target="_blank">&lt;diane@mmip.com&gt;</a><br>
                                                    <strong><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Subject:</span></strong>
                                                    [E-trademarks]
                                                    Attorney Identity
                                                    Theft<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                              <p> <u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p>Today the ABA Journal
                                                Weekly Newsletter ran a
                                                story about Ana Belén
                                                Vinueza, a corporate
                                                attorney for Illumina
                                                (California) whose
                                                identity and credentials
                                                were stolen and used to
                                                file more than 2000
                                                trademark applications.<u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p> <u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p>According to the
                                                article, female
                                                attorneys licensed in
                                                California currently run
                                                the highest risk of this
                                                type of identity
                                                misappropriation. The
                                                USPTO is aware of at
                                                least 30 such cases of
                                                similar identity theft
                                                for the purpose of
                                                filing new trademark
                                                applications.<u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p> <u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p>Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p><em><b><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"> </span></b></em><u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p><em><b><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Diane
                                                      L. Gardner</span></b></em><u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p><em><b><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Reg.
                                                      No. 36,518</span></b></em><u></u><u></u></p>
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                                                    of February 1, 2023:</span></strong><u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p>Mastermind IP Law P.C.,
                                                440 N. Barranca Ave.
                                                #6387, Covina, CA 91723<i><br>
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                                                <em><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">tel</span></em>.<em><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">  \u25aa 
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                                              <p>CA Lic. No. 196214   DC
                                                Lic. No. 470855   USPTO
                                                Reg. No. 36518<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                                    mail processing
                                                    address as of
                                                    February 1, 2023:</span></strong><u></u><u></u></p>
                                              <p>Mastermind IP Law P.C.,
                                                532 Forest Bluffs Rd.,
                                                Aiken, SC 29803<u></u><u></u></p>
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