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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You would serve them in France, most likely via the Hague Convention. Happens all the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">C. Dale Quisenberry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 13 November 2024 at 6:15</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">pm<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Jurisdiction over foreign client accused of TM infringement in the US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">Thanks, Dale. But how would they get jurisdiction over a company that has no office or agent here? On whom would they serve process?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">I suppose they could serve process on someone from the company who happened to come over here for a conference or something, but otherwise\u2026?.
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 6:58</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jessica R. Friedman <jrfriedman@litproplaw.com>, e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com>, Jessica R. Friedman <jrfriedman@litproplaw.com><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">On Nov 13, 2024, at 5:44</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">PM, Jessica
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Client operates and has offices in France. Client uses CLOUD SECURES (hypothetical) to identify its cybersecurity consulting services and has a WIPO registration for that mark for
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">USCo provides cybersecurity consulting services in the U.S. under the mark CLOUD. USCo sends Client a c&d letter accusing Client of infringing its CLOUD trademark by allegedly using
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Without Client\u2019s having an office or agent here, is there any basis for USCo to assert jurisdiction over Client here?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I say yes. They are providing services under the alleged infringing mark in the US. Why wouldn\u2019t they be subject to jurisdiction in the US?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Could the US contractors that Client uses be considered its agents so as to confer jurisdiction?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Don\u2019t think that is necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Is there any basis for USCo\u2019s suing Client
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">By the way, if anyone has an Office Action response that says situation like this \u2014\u2014 CLOUD SECURES does not infringe trademark on CLOUD\u2014- would appreciate a serial number I could look up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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