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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">Missed one of Dale\u2019s comments. The trademarks I mentioned were completely hypothetical, but if CLOUD was a weak element of registered marks for cybersecurity,
and CLOUD itself was not yet registered, then IMHO, whether CLOUD SECURES infringed just plain CLOUD would not be so clear. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366">Jessica R. Friedman</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366">Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366">300 East 59 Street, Ste. 2406<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366">New York, NY 10022</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="color:black">Dale Quisenberry <dale@quisenberrylaw.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 6:58</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span style="color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jessica R. Friedman <jrfriedman@litproplaw.com>, e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com>, Jessica R. Friedman <jrfriedman@litproplaw.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Jurisdiction over foreign client accused of TM infringement in the US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Client operates and has offices in France. Client uses CLOUD SECURES (hypothetical) to identify its cybersecurity consulting services and has a WIPO registration for that mark
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">USCo provides cybersecurity consulting services in the U.S. under the mark CLOUD. USCo sends Client a c&d letter accusing Client of infringing its CLOUD trademark by allegedly
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Without Client\u2019s having an office or agent here, is there any basis for USCo to assert jurisdiction over Client here?</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I say yes. They are providing services under the alleged infringing mark in the US. Why wouldn\u2019t they be subject to jurisdiction in the US?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Is there any basis for USCo\u2019s suing Client
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<p class="MsoNormal">Need input from French counsel on that. I am aware of case law that allows a US federal court to adjudicate copyright infringement claims arising under Canadian law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">By the way, if anyone has an Office Action response that says situation like this \u2014\u2014 CLOUD SECURES does not infringe trademark on CLOUD\u2014- would appreciate a serial number I could look up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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