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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle210"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">\ufeff</span>To be clear, I represent the French company.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366">Jessica R. Friedman</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366">Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366">300 East 59 Street, Ste. 2406<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 11:06</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Seconding this. I\u2019ve known a fellow for about 10 years now whose practice is exclusively Hague service for situations similar to this one.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dale Quisenberry via E-trademarks<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">You would serve them in France, most likely via the Hague Convention. Happens all the time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 13 November 2024 at 6:15</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">pm<br>
<b>To: </b>Dale Quisenberry <<a href="mailto:dale@quisenberrylaw.com">dale@quisenberrylaw.com</a>>,
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Jurisdiction over foreign client accused of TM infringement in the US</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">Thanks, Dale. But how would they get jurisdiction over a company that has no office or agent here? On whom would they serve process?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">I suppose they could serve process on someone from the company who happened to come over here for a conference or something, but otherwise\u2026?.
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 6:58</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a> <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Nov 13, 2024, at 5:44</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">PM, Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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<span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Client operates and has offices in France. Client uses CLOUD SECURES (hypothetical) to identify its cybersecurity consulting services and has a WIPO registration for that mark for those services.
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<span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">USCo provides cybersecurity consulting services in the U.S. under the mark CLOUD. USCo sends Client a c&d letter accusing Client of infringing its CLOUD trademark by allegedly using CLOUD SECURES
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I say yes. They are providing services under the alleged infringing mark in the US. Why wouldn\u2019t they be subject to jurisdiction in the US?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Need input from French counsel on that. I am aware of case law that allows a US federal court to adjudicate copyright infringement claims arising under Canadian law.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">By the way, if anyone has an Office Action response that says situation like this \u2014\u2014 CLOUD SECURES does not infringe trademark on CLOUD\u2014- would appreciate a serial number I could look up.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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