<div dir="ltr"><div>The Supreme Court has been pretty clear -- if you file an application on January 17, and the PTO identifies the complaint after, the PTO can't apply the new rule to a past completed transaction. You are entitled to rely on the law as it stands on the date of you complete your transaction.</div><div><br></div><div>In this area, as in so many others, the PTO's view is that the law can go to hell. The examiner will apply the law as it stands on the day the examiner does the work, not the law as it stood when you did your work.</div><div><br></div><div>So if you are willing to fight a $100 fee up through the Federal Circuit, I will help you. But in the real world, start adjusting your practice now.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 9:44\u202fAM Leesa N. Weiss via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg535019484951174047">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Not sure if I missed something in reviewing all the discussion in the Federal Register Notice, but other than the exceptions to certain changes for Madrid/Section
66 applications, I have not seen whether currently pending (filed prior to January 18, 2025) Section 1 and Section 44 applications, especially those which have not yet been examined as of January 18, can be dinged with the various new surcharges/fees.
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Do we have to start preparing new applications with the surcharges in mind knowing they won\u2019t be examined before January 18?<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">If a foreign associate wants one of us to file a new Section 44(d) application with lengthy lists of goods/services which likely exceed the 1,000 character limit and/or are not selected from the ID
manual, should we be counseling them to file the U.S. application before January 18?<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Should we be counseling our foreign associates with clients planning to file Section 44 applications in the U.S. to use the US ID manual when crafting the goods/services in the underlying foreign applications?<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Or, am I simply overthinking this?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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