<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Examiner needs reminding of, if I remember correctly, Composite marks, where<div>BIG TEXT and small-text, can support 3 separate trademarks, if all other considerations are</div><div>ok (eg not generic, not prior conflicting registration, etc. Similar with text and/or image,</div><div>if not too entangled. TMEP likely has exxplicit numbered section.</div><div>Daniel Kegan<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 30, 2024, at 5:14\u202fPM, Vic Indiano via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--><div><div class="ydpfdb38595yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 24px;"><div style="font-size: 24px;"></div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">Re; Specimens.</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">I recently received rejection of specimens that I submitted that I struck me as odd, since I have never received a rejection of specimens on this basis before, although I have submitted many similar specimens.<br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">Hypothetically, the trademark is for the term Fast Flush in the standard character format<br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">The specimen that I submitted showed the mark in a logo form and appeared as follows:<br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-size: 24px;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-size: 24px;"><span id="cid:25b1e2bd-142c-a530-6de9-c4dbe9b80722@yahoo.com"><1733004276092blob.jpg></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">The reason for the rejection was that it did not show the mark Fast Flush that was sought to be registered. Rather, the examiner believed that the mark that was shown was<br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><i>Fast Flush Plumbing and HVAC</i></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">This struck me as strange, as I have never had a specimen rejected that showed of the mark adjacent to a generic descriptor.<br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">Is the trademark examiner's rejection legitimate? Or is in fact the specimen not a proper showing of the mark?<br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">When I followed up with the examiner by presenting other specimens for her to review, she made another interesting comment.<br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">Some of the new specimens show the term Fast Flush, whereas others showed the term Faster Flush.</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">I can understand that the use of the term Faster Flush in the specimens does not show use of the term. However, her comment was that the specimens as a group were not good because the mark was used inconsistently in different specimens.</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">To my knowledge, there is no requirement that a trademark be used in a consistent manner, so long as it is being used in the manner for which an application is sought somewhere.</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">Again, do you believe the examiner to be correct in her assertion, or a she off base. <br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">Any thoughts and help are most welcome.<br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3">Vic Indiano </font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><div><p class="ydpfd4d0f83MsoNormal" style="background:white">The Indiano Law Group, LLC</p><p class="ydpfd4d0f83MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span><b><span style="font-size: 16pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span></b></span></p><p class="ydpfd4d0f83MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span><b><span style="font-size: 16pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">E. 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