<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif">Dear Vic,</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:"times new roman",serif">U<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif">gh, yes, I've dealt with this nonsense on occasion. The case that you're looking for is <a href="https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/ttabvue-86616382-EXA-13.pdf"><i>In re University of Miami</i></a> (TTAB 2017). See also <a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/current/TMEP-800d1e1709.html">TMEP § 807.12(d)</a>. And, if you want to see a winning office action response (drafted by yours truly), then check the response <a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=90245538&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch">here</a>.<div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Cheers,</span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"> </span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt">Sam<span> Castree, III</span></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:medium"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><span><i>Sam Castree Law, LLC</i></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>3421 W. Elm St.</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>McHenry, IL 60050</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>(815) 344-6300</i></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></span></span></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 4:16\u202fPM Vic Indiano via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:24px"><div style="font-size:24px"></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font size="3">Re; Specimens.</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">I recently received rejection of specimens that I submitted that I struck me as odd, since I have never received a rejection of specimens on this basis before, although I have submitted many similar specimens.<br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">Hypothetically, the trademark is for the term Fast Flush in the standard character format<br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">The specimen that I submitted showed the mark in a logo form and appeared as follows:<br></font></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:24px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:24px"><img title="Inline image" alt="Inline image" src="cid:ii_1937fe778bc12960a161" style="max-width: 800px;"></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">The reason for the rejection was that it did not show the mark Fast Flush that was sought to be registered. Rather, the examiner believed that the mark that was shown was<br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><i>Fast Flush Plumbing and HVAC</i></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">This struck me as strange, as I have never had a specimen rejected that showed of the mark adjacent to a generic descriptor.<br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">Is the trademark examiner's rejection legitimate? Or is in fact the specimen not a proper showing of the mark?<br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">When I followed up with the examiner by presenting other specimens for her to review, she made another interesting comment.<br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">Some of the new specimens show the term Fast Flush, whereas others showed the term Faster Flush.</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">I can understand that the use of the term Faster Flush in the specimens does not show use of the term. However, her comment was that the specimens as a group were not good because the mark was used inconsistently in different specimens.</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">To my knowledge, there is no requirement that a trademark be used in a consistent manner, so long as it is being used in the manner for which an application is sought somewhere.</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">Again, do you believe the examiner to be correct in her assertion, or a she off base. <br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">Any thoughts and help are most welcome.<br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">Vic Indiano </font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3"><div><p style="background:white">The Indiano Law Group, LLC</p>
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