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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Vic,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I am at least 99% sure that you are correct and the Examining Attorney is wrong. If this were a mutilation of the mark sought to be registered, that is one thing, but you have tried to register a word mark
and the descriptive material beneath the mark in the specimen is a description of the goods, not the mark itself anyway. In fact, this is very proper use of the mark, using it as an adjective and following it by the common descriptive term of the goods or
services sold under the mark. I would simple respond with something pointing out these issues and I would think you can get the Examining Attorney to change her mind.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Paul D. Supnik<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://supnik.com/"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="333" height="125" style="width:3.4635in;height:1.302in" id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01DB4350.FC5C6580" alt="Paul D. Supnik9454 Wilshire Blvd, Ste 550Beverly Hills, CA 90212"></span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vic Indiano via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 30, 2024 2:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Vic Indiano <gadgetlawyer@yahoo.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] seeking billing software suggestions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Re; Specimens.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I recently received rejection of specimens that I submitted that I struck me as odd, since I have never received a rejection of specimens on this basis before, although I have submitted many
similar specimens.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hypothetically, the trademark is for the term Fast Flush in the standard character format</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The specimen that I submitted showed the mark in a logo form and appeared as follows:</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The reason for the rejection was that it did not show the mark Fast Flush that was sought to be registered. Rather, the examiner believed that the mark that was shown was</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Fast Flush Plumbing and HVAC</span></i><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">This struck me as strange, as I have never had a specimen rejected that showed of the mark adjacent to a generic descriptor.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Is the trademark examiner's rejection legitimate? Or is in fact the specimen not a proper showing of the mark?</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">When I followed up with the examiner by presenting other specimens for her to review, she made another interesting comment.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Some of the new specimens show the term Fast Flush, whereas others showed the term Faster Flush.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I can understand that the use of the term Faster Flush in the specimens does not show use of the term. However, her comment was that the specimens as a group were not good because the mark
was used inconsistently in different specimens.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">To my knowledge, there is no requirement that a trademark be used in a consistent manner, so long as it is being used in the manner for which an application is sought somewhere.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Again, do you believe the examiner to be correct in her assertion, or a she off base. </span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Any thoughts and help are most welcome.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Vic Indiano </span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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