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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thank you everyone for the comments and suggestions.&nbsp; &nbsp;Enjoy the rest of your wekend!</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Vic&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>
        
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                        On Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 05:15:52 PM EST, Vic Indiano via E-trademarks &lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt; wrote:
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        <div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">Re; Specimens.</font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">I recently received rejection of specimens that I submitted that I&nbsp;struck me as odd, since I have never received a rejection of specimens on this basis before, although I have submitted many similar specimens.<br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">Hypothetically, the trademark is for the term Fast Flush&nbsp;in the standard character format<br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">The specimen that I submitted showed the mark in a logo form and appeared as follows:<br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:24px;"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:24px;"><img title="Inline image" alt="Inline image" src="cid:xTnNbES35wew8M2Galc8" yahoo_partid="2" style="max-width:800px;" class="yiv7143627889yahoo-inline-image" data-id="<6eb663c8-ffc8-e181-fb8a-edab9a1eb9f9@yahoo.com>"></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">The&nbsp;reason for the rejection was that it did not show the mark Fast Flush&nbsp;that was sought to be registered. Rather, the examiner believed that the mark that was shown was<br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><i>Fast Flush Plumbing and HVAC</i></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">This struck me as strange, as I have never had a specimen rejected that showed of the mark adjacent to a generic descriptor.<br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">Is the trademark examiner's rejection legitimate?&nbsp;Or is in fact the specimen not a proper showing of the mark?<br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">When I followed up with the examiner by presenting other specimens for her to review, she made&nbsp;another interesting comment.<br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">Some of the new specimens show the term Fast Flush,&nbsp;whereas others showed the term Faster Flush.</font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">I can understand that the use of the term Faster Flush in the specimens does not show use of the term. However, her comment was that the specimens as a group were not good because the mark was used inconsistently in different specimens.</font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">To my knowledge, there is no requirement that a trademark be used&nbsp; in a consistent manner, so long as it is being used in the manner for which an application is sought somewhere.</font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">Again, do you believe the examiner to be correct in her assertion, or a she off base.&nbsp;<br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">Any thoughts and help are most welcome.<br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3">Vic Indiano&nbsp;</font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr" style=""><font size="3"></font><div><p style="background:white;" class="yiv7143627889ydpfd4d0f83MsoNormal">The Indiano Law Group, LLC</p>

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