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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I often use the TEAS Plus filing option now, and even when I don\u2019t, I at least look into whether the goods/services can be sensibly adapted into approved IDs in the Manual before recommending to a client they don\u2019t use the TEAS Plus option.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What I will probably do even more moving forward when the identification I want to submit is too narrow or not in the ID is to check if there\u2019s a broad identification that has a fill-in component that can be used to accurately and more narrowly reflect the goods/services Manual (which you mention in your email). As with TEAS Plus cases now, the comments with the fee final rules (Comment 34) make clear that as long as you are reasonably trying to fill in the blank with something appropriate, they won\u2019t charge the surcharge even if they object to the identification and require you to amend it. I feel had many times where they object to an identification and want that filled-in part worded differently, but almost never get an objection requiring the TEAS Plus deficiency fee (I can only think of 1 case where this happened on an ID issue, and the Examining Attorney agreed they were mistaken and withdrew it).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Another option, particularly if it seems the ID must something narrow and outside of the ID Manual to get around another mark, is to simply give the client the options of either (1) paying an extra $200 now to file the narrow ID at the start, or (2) filing a broader, encompassing ID at the start to avoid that fee, and narrowing it later by amendment if needed and paying an attorney fee of whatever it may be, when the amendment is filed. The comments with the rules (Comment 44) state that amending the ID to add exclusionary language does not invoke the surcharge. But some clients may prefer to avoid an office action entirely if they can and would rather pay the extra fee at the front end.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><table class=MsoTableGrid border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=366 style='width:274.5pt;border-collapse:collapse;border:none'><tr style='height:88.65pt'><td width=96 valign=top style='width:1.0in;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:88.65pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><img width=86 height=86 style='width:.8958in;height:.8958in' id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image001.jpg@01DB44E5.B6FEC0F0" alt="Logo Description automatically generated with medium confidence"><br><br></span><span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-cooper-wfmb"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:none;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=18 height=18 style='width:.1875in;height:.1875in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image002.png@01DB44E5.B6FEC0F0" alt="Icon Description automatically generated"></span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><a href="https://www.instagram.com/ipattorneysteve/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:windowtext;mso-ligatures:none;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=18 height=18 style='width:.1875in;height:.1875in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image003.png@01DB44E5.B6FEC0F0" alt="Icon Description automatically generated"></span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> <br><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=270 valign=top style='width:202.5pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:88.65pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060'>Steven T. 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Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by reply email and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. <br>*********************************************************<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Laura Geyer via E-trademarks<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 2, 2024 4:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Laura Geyer <lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com><br><b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] What are you telling your clients ...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>About the absolutely insane and absurd subcharge that an awful lot of our clients will need to pay to use the freeform g/s field in applications starting next year? And how are you presenting the highly unpredictable \u201cdeficiency\u201d amounts in estimates?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(I still can\u2019t believe they\u2019re doing this when it\u2019s basically the only way to avoid a 2(d) refusal in many cases where the broader definition makes no darned sense. Or when the broader category doesn\u2019t include a field option?)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#174E86;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Laura Talley Geyer</span></b><span style='color:#333333;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'> | </span><b><span style='color:#666666;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Of Counsel</span></b><span style='color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#174E86;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#174E86;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>ND Galli Law LLC</span></b><span style='color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>1200 G Street, N.W., Ste 800<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Washington, DC 20005<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Tel: (202) 599-9019 (direct)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><a href="https://ndgallilaw.com/laura-geyer/">https://ndgallilaw.com/laura-geyer/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><a href="https://ndgallilaw.com/">https://ndgallilaw.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>