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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">May I make a suggestion? Vic, I think you did what I do sometimes, which is type in my own new query as a response to an older thread. But if you\u2019re going to
do that, it\u2019s best to put a new subject matter heading that reflects the new topic. This thread is headed \u201cbilling software suggestions.\u201d I wanted to save this thread, in case I have this same specimen rejection problem, but without giving it a new title,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black">E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of Vic Indiano via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 9:12</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span style="color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Vic Indiano <gadgetlawyer@yahoo.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] seeking billing software suggestions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Thank you everyone for the comments and suggestions. Enjoy the rest of your wekend!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">On Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 05:15:52 PM EST, Vic Indiano via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">I recently received rejection of specimens that I submitted that I struck me as odd, since I have never received a rejection of specimens on this basis before, although I have submitted
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">Hypothetically, the trademark is for the term Fast Flush in the standard character format</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">The specimen that I submitted showed the mark in a logo form and appeared as follows:</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">The reason for the rejection was that it did not show the mark Fast Flush that was sought to be registered. Rather, the examiner believed that the mark that was shown was</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">Fast Flush Plumbing and HVAC</span></i><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">This struck me as strange, as I have never had a specimen rejected that showed of the mark adjacent to a generic descriptor.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">When I followed up with the examiner by presenting other specimens for her to review, she made another interesting comment.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">Some of the new specimens show the term Fast Flush, whereas others showed the term Faster Flush.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">I can understand that the use of the term Faster Flush in the specimens does not show use of the term. However, her comment was that the specimens as a group were not good because
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">To my knowledge, there is no requirement that a trademark be used in a consistent manner, so long as it is being used in the manner for which an application is sought somewhere.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">Any thoughts and help are most welcome.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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