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Agree! Interesting possibility,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/3/2024 9:17 AM, Annette Heller
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In a message dated 12/3/2024 11:04:13 AM Central Standard Time,
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<div> I'd consider filing a power of attorney ASAP.
This is probably not the case -- I don't want to
assume attorney malfeasance -- but it's not
impossible.</div>
<div> What I'd be worried about is some kind of Amazon
/ brand-ownership hijacking. Assuming you didn't
have a filed power of attorney, the USPTO stopped
recognizing you as the attorney upon registration
(or completion of earlier maintenance filing) under
37 C.F.R. §2.17(g). Then, once this new attorney
files the renewal, the new attorney is recognized
under 37 C.F.R. §2.17(b)(1), right? And that
attorney will get any kind of emails from Amazon, or
Walmart, or whoever now uses that method of
verifying brand ownership, under 37 C.F.R. §2.18.</div>
<div> I just don't see another point for paying the
client's USPTO fees when you are not going to be
reimbursed. And the "we're on vacation and not
responding" might just be a dodge. </div>
<div> Sincerely, </div>
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Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 10:41\u202fAM Mark Kaufman via
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<p class="yiv6800248735MsoNormal">Oh great
and powerful Brain Trust:</p>
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<p class="yiv6800248735MsoNormal">We wrote
to a client to renew a registration (due
in a year, but inspired by the upcoming
increase in PTO fees). Client said they\u2019d
send payment. Before we renewed, another
U.S. attorney had filed and paid the fee
for renewal. Disappointed, I wrote to the
client. Client said that they didn\u2019t know
who the new attorney was, and that client
had mailed me a check to do the work. An
email to the new attorney semi-bounces
back with the following message:</p>
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<p class="yiv6800248735MsoNormal"
style="margin-left: 0.5in;">XYZ Law Firm
will be away on vacation for the 2024-2025
holiday season. Afterward [the firm] will
begin the winding up process. If you have
any questions this email will be monitored
sparingly but questions will be addressed
in time. [The Firm\u2019s] Intellectual
Property web services have been faulty
since 9/4/2024. If assistance is needed
concerning a prior response please call.</p>
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<p class="yiv6800248735MsoNormal">I\u2019m not
sure if the \u201c2024-2025 holiday season\u201d
means the entire month of December. A
phone call to new attorney\u2019s cell phone
doesn\u2019t answer, and \u201cmailbox is full.\u201d
I\u2019ve sent a text message, but am not
optimistic about getting a response.</p>
<p class="yiv6800248735MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv6800248735MsoNormal">So: I
guess I\u2019ll send the foregoing to <a
href="mailto:TMscam@uspto.gov"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener
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moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">TMscam@uspto.gov</a>
and, if anyone thinks it\u2019s advisable, to
the Post Registration Department. But the
curious thing about this hijacking is that
the new, unauthorized \u201claw firm\u201d, in the
process of taking over the registration,
paid the filing fee. Maybe they intend to
assign the registration to some other
scammer\u2026</p>
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<p class="yiv6800248735MsoNormal">I welcome
your thoughts and suggestions.</p>
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<p class="yiv6800248735MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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