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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You can always put the company on notice of the infringement by sending directly to their General Counsel, and then if they ignore that they lose safe
harbor, and once you file a lawsuit then you are in direct contact with their outside counsel.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of Laura Geyer via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 17 December 2024 at 10:25</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">am<br>
<b>To: </b>For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Laura Geyer <lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Etsy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear Jack:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Yes, many times. If it\u2019s a copyright issue, their DMCA process is usually reasonably fast so long as it\u2019s a straight-up DMCA situation (ie, copyright, you can point to the infringement and to
what it\u2019s infringing, and you provide all the other necessary info. If you haven\u2019t got a copyright issue that falls under that, but rather a trademark issue, if you have a trademark registration, they have a form-based filing process to complain about that
and if the situation is a flaming infringement, they will generally act. They also are reasonably good if your client\u2019s complaint is based on obvious fraud or falls into one of the \u201cabuse\u201d categories. Again, you have to use the proper form to get anywhere.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I\u2019ve never had any success with an escalation without going through their formal process first.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">And generally if the form-based process doesn\u2019t work, they want people to sort it out themselves.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">The \u201cdo you know someone at Etsy\u201d (or ag Google or at any of the places that something infringing but not something the company will generally act on is going on) is a tempting way to go at it,
but since they themselves (Etsy or Google pr Meta or similar employees) have limited capacity to do anything, if someone here *<b>did</b>* have something as close to the elixir of eternal life as a contact at Etsy or one of those places who could actually
do anything, that would be a close-held secret saved for a once-every-five-years type emergency. You can imagine how quickly you\u2019d burn that connection if you handed it out, given how *&^% unresponsive the companies can be if their formal process doesn\u2019t work!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I can sometimes work my way into a real human\u2019s email address via targeted googling, and then use that to work my way to someone who can do something by using the company\u2019s email format to guess
the correct email address of the person you\u2019re trying to reach. I\u2019ve never succeeded in getting someone at one of the big platforms to act (only smaller ones), however, and the sole time I reached such a person I was told they were forbidden by internal policy
from helping people outside the usual pathways.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Good luck!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#174E86">Laura Talley Geyer</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#333333"> |
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jack Baldini via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2024 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.' <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> jack@baldinilaw.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Etsy</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hello all,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Anyone have clients with issues selling on Etsy? Anyone have a direct contact for someone at Etsy who can help expedite resolving account issues?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks all,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jack</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black">John Brooks Baldini, Esq.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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