<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Yes, but clients seem to think it\u2019s business as usual. An overseas law firm just sent me a \u201creferral\u201d where the client set a budget that is literally less than the potential filing fees, alone, with almost no attorneys fees, for a mark in multiple classes. <div><br></div><div>Maybe I\u2019m tempting the fates of LegalZoom, but after detailing all the fees (and creating a template for future clients), and receiving their kind rejection, I wrote that if they find someone else to do the work for that amount and then need help on responding to an office action resulting from such services, \u201cplease let me know if we can be of assistance\u2026\u201d<div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>Mark</div><div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mark S. 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<p>I am simply adding up all of the new gouge fees from the
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laura Geyer via E-trademarks<br>
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<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
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<p class="MsoNormal">About the absolutely insane and absurd
subcharge that an awful lot of our clients will need to pay
to use the freeform g/s field in applications starting next
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<p class="MsoNormal">(I still can\u2019t believe they\u2019re doing this
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many cases where the broader definition makes no darned
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