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<p class="MsoNormal">I have been \u201cgetting used to it\u201d for a while now, except when I have to file multiple applications for the same client (if someone knows how to save and reuse an application, please let me know, because I haven\u2019t figured out that functionality
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<p class="MsoNormal">For me, at least, the change to the workflow is the most annoying thing, though I suppose that as long as everything works properly it\u2019s just something that we will, in fact, have to get used to.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Kaufman via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 18, 2024 7:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mark Kaufman <kaufman@kaufmankahn.com>; e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Trademark Center failures (was 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is the collective wisdom to start \u201cgetting used to\u201d the new system now, or wait to suffer and waste time after January 18 in the valiant hope that our thoughts will be heard from On High?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Reminds of management of forced labor, rowing on the open seas: \u201cThe flogging wil continue until morale improves.\u201d<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mark S. Kaufman<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 18, 2024, at 5:33<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM, Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2024 6:07 PM, Patti Giuliano via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Having just used the new Beta application format for a few filings today, I think they should be paying us for this debacle of form. I\u2019ve been using it for a couple of months with
little to no problems \u2013 even though the format is ridiculous and hard to review. Today, two applications went through just fine. The third one \u2013 not so much. Twice it didn\u2019t capture all the information (the information is on my \u201cpreview\u201d copy but not on
the emailed copy), I tried again, and the copy emailed to me was completely blank, and don\u2019t get me started on the issues with the goods and services. Why does the USPTO like to change the order of the description? You make a simple change, and it moves the
phrase to the bottom of the list. This just makes it harder to review. If you need to make changes after you have emailed a draft to yourself, God be with you. Warning: there are things you cannot change after you have emailed a draft \u2013 like a matter number.
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<p>I just went through (suffered through) a trademark filing in Trademark Center with a client.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Over and over again I would fill in various fields (for example where the applicant is incorporated) and click through to later steps in the click path, and then send it to the client, and the version received by the client would be missing one or more of
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