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What makes it a "joint venture"? Is it registered with any secretary
of state's office? Or is that a post hoc justification to try to
salvage the application?<br>
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The TMEP describes permitted and impermissible changes to the owner
name in 1201.02(c),
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/current/TMEP-1200d1e151.html">https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/current/TMEP-1200d1e151.html</a>
This might be relevant: "(3) Joint Venturer Files. If the
application is filed in the name of a joint venturer when the mark
is owned by the joint venture, and there is no inconsistency in the
original application between the owner name and the entity type
(such as a reference to a joint venture in the entity section of the
application), the applicant\u2019s name cannot be amended. <i>Tong Yang
Cement</i>, 19 USPQ2d at 1689."<br>
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Unnamed owners try to oppose and/or cancel all the time, it's
probably the main reason for ownership challenges. Too many cases to
cite, but a leading one is about FAIRWAY FOX,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2014/07/precedential-no-29-after-partnership.html">http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2014/07/precedential-no-29-after-partnership.html</a>.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I\u2019m aware of the principle that an
application is void ab initio if two entities were in
existence as of the application filing date, and the
application was filed by the wrong one.
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<p class="MsoNormal">What about a situation where two entities
were in existence as of the filing date, and were partners in
a joint enterprise that used the mark, but the application was
filed only by one, listing only that company as the sole
owner? Is that application void ab initio?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Relatedly, if you are aware of oppositions
(or cancellations) where the unnamed owner sought to oppose
(or cancel) the application, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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