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    That still doesn't make sense. These things are reviewed
    extensively, and no one caught it? It removes information that is on
    a different topic and still relevant, and doesn't have the title
    they claim it has. It's not on the PTO website as a pending notice
    of rulemaking.  I searched the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/search?conditions%5Bterm%5D=trademark&amp;conditions%5Btype%5D%5B%5D=PRORULE#">Federal
      Register website</a> and didn't find it. I wonder if it was a
    draft that somehow ended up on the website? <br>
    <br>
    Perhaps the kind PTO lurkers on the list can privately message one
    of us whether this was an error.<br>
    <br>
    Pam<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-signature">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/7/2025 9:11 AM, Crane, Susan
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
            think it was just a typo and they meant to say 2.63.  They
            are apparently renaming the section and eliminating (b)3 and
            (b)4.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0072CE">Susan
              L. Crane<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A">Group
              Vice President, Legal<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A">Intellectual
              Property, Brands &amp; Marketing<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A">Wyndham
            Hotels &amp; Resorts, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A">22
            Sylvan Way<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A">Parsippany,
            NJ 07054<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A">O</span></b><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A"> (973)
            753-6455<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A">M</span></b><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#51534A"> (973)
            879-3420<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a
              href="mailto:Susan.Crane@wyndham.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">Susan.Crane@wyndham.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt"> E-trademarks
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">&lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a>
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 7, 2025 11:48 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> Pamela Chestek <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">&lt;pamela@chesteklegal.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] [EXT] Proposed
              shortening of Request for Reconsideration to Final Appeal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              whole thing not make sense? The current rule is titled
              "Reinstatement of applications and registrations
              abandoned, cancelled, or expired due to Office error.\u200a"
              Section (a) is request for reinstatement of an abandoned
              application<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt">Is it me, or does the whole thing
            not make sense? The
            <a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TFSR/current*/current/r-b4d5f73a-8360-499f-ab67-97240ad8800c.html__;Iw!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!gd_D4QXVw_Hn7FKsfUfr2IVqhWwJhzzupJta15YgLi5P-vLuEAVJVzwjxgi62wAEkB4F1c9E_-5Up0E5vGUl2LCAzNxycrA$"
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              current rule</a> is titled "Reinstatement of applications
            and registrations abandoned, cancelled, or expired due to
            Office error." Section (a) is request for reinstatement of
            an abandoned application where there is an Office error,
            section (b) is request for reinstatement of cancelled or
            expired registration due to Office error, and (c) is request
            for reinstatement may be construed as a petition. And there
            is no (c)(i).<br>
            <br>
            <a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TFSR/current*/current/r-ad80a6fe-ef1d-41bf-b515-5db1487bcc95.html__;Iw!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!gd_D4QXVw_Hn7FKsfUfr2IVqhWwJhzzupJta15YgLi5P-vLuEAVJVzwjxgi62wAEkB4F1c9E_-5Up0E5vGUl2LCAl0Alass$"
              moz-do-not-send="true">Section 2.63</a> is titled "Action
            after response" (not Final Action"), but it still doesn't
            make much sense because it eliminates relevant information
            formerly in the revised sections, as well as b(3) and b(4).<br>
            <br>
            There is no CFR section titled "Final action." The TMEP has
            <a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current*/current/TMEP-700d1e1814.html__;Iw!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!gd_D4QXVw_Hn7FKsfUfr2IVqhWwJhzzupJta15YgLi5P-vLuEAVJVzwjxgi62wAEkB4F1c9E_-5Up0E5vGUl2LCAe16A1p4$"
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              section 714</a> titled "Final Action," which refers to CFR
            section 2.63(b), not 2.64. And the TMEP doesn't use that
            numbering format.<br>
            <br>
            This rule is not listed under the "Proposed Rules" on the
            PTO <a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.uspto.gov/trademarks/laws__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!gd_D4QXVw_Hn7FKsfUfr2IVqhWwJhzzupJta15YgLi5P-vLuEAVJVzwjxgi62wAEkB4F1c9E_-5Up0E5vGUl2LCAD_dnEzo$"
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              Law &amp; Regulations</a> website. <br>
            <br>
            I'm leaning towards the fact this is an errant publication.<br>
            <br>
            Pam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:11.0pt">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
              Chestek Legal<br>
              PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW MAILING ADDRESS<br>
              4641 Post St.<br>
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              +1 919-800-8033<br>
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href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.chesteklegal.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!gd_D4QXVw_Hn7FKsfUfr2IVqhWwJhzzupJta15YgLi5P-vLuEAVJVzwjxgi62wAEkB4F1c9E_-5Up0E5vGUl2LCAjAIdxyk$"
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On
              1/6/2025 9:18 PM, Lara Pearson via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    is the actual proposed text of the Proposed Amended
                    Rule:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <pre><span style="color:black"> 2. Amend Sec. 2.64 by revising paragraphs (b) and (c)(1) to read as<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">follows:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">   Sec. 2.64  Final action.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">      * * * * *<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">   (b)(1) During the three-month period after issuance of a final action,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">the applicant may request that the examining attorney reconsider the final<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">action. The request must be filed through TEAS. The filing of a request<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">for reconsideration will not extend the time for filing an appeal or<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">petitioning the Director.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">   (2) During the six-month period after issuance of a final action, the<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">applicant may submit amendments. Any such amendments will be examined, and<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">will be entered if they comply with the rules of practice in trademark<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">cases and the Act of 1946. The filing of such an amendment will not extend<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">the time for filing an appeal or petitioning the Director.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">   (c)(1) If an applicant in an application under § 1(b) of the Act files<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">an amendment to allege use under Sec. 2.76 during the six-month period<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">after issuance of a final action, the examiner shall examine the amendment.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">The filing of such an amendment will not extend the time for filing an<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                <pre><span style="color:black">appeal or petitioning the Director.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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                                        style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Lara
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                                          style="color:#222222">[</span><a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/medium.com/gender-inclusivit/why-i-put-pronouns-on-my-email-signature-and-linkedin-profile-and-you-should-too-d3dc942c8743__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!gd_D4QXVw_Hn7FKsfUfr2IVqhWwJhzzupJta15YgLi5P-vLuEAVJVzwjxgi62wAEkB4F1c9E_-5Up0E5vGUl2LCAQX1xiZw$"
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                                            how I say my name</a>)</span></span><span
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                                          Tahoe, the Washoe or Wa\u0161i\u0161iw
                                          ("people from here,"
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                                          humility and gratitude, I
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On
                  Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 9:02\u202fPM Alex Butterman &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:abutterman@dbllawyers.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">abutterman@dbllawyers.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841">I
                        think that proposed rule skips a step because
                        the period from final OA to appeal is only 6
                        months if the applicant files an extension
                        request <b><u>BEFORE</u></b> filing the Request
                        for Reconsideration. Is the rule saying that the
                        filing of a RFR by 3 months automatically
                        extends the appeal deadline to six months? And
                        with or without payment of the $125 fee?</span><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841"> </span><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841">That
                        rule does sound like the PTO making the
                        applicant pay for the PTO\u2019s inability to process
                        a RFR and Notice of Appeal simultaneously rather
                        than just fix internally whatever is screwing up
                        that process. Maybe the PTO should alter is
                        examiner jurisdiction rules.
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Alex
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                            style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt"> E-trademarks &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
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                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lara Pearson via
                          E-trademarks<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 6, 2025 10:57 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Carl Oppedahl &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> Lara Pearson &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:lara@brandgeek.net"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">lara@brandgeek.net</a>&gt;<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> [EXT] [E-trademarks] Proposed
                          shortening of Request for Reconsideration to
                          Final Appeal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                hope you all had a delightful holiday
                                break and are finding things to look
                                forward to this year.</span><span
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                                have a response to a Final OA and was
                                researching whether there'd been a
                                change in the response time from 6 to 3
                                months, and came across this Dec 31,
                                2024 <a
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                                  Notice of Proposed Rule</a>, which I
                                don't recall seeing discussed here
                                (forgive me if it was, and I missed it):</span><span
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                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The United States Patent and Trademark Office ("USPTO") proposes to </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">amend 37 C.F.R.  Sec. 2.64 to require a request for reconsideration of </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">an examining attorney's final refusal or requirement to be filed through</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">the Trademark Electronic Application System ("TEAS") within three </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">months of the mailing date of the final action. ***</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">A request for reconsideration of a final action does not extend the time</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">for filing an appeal or petitioning the Director on that action. Under the</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">current version of the rule, wherein the applicant may file a request for</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">reconsideration at any time between the final action and the six-month</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">deadline for appealing or petitioning, many applicants simultaneously seek</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">reconsideration and file an appeal. Because the examining attorney loses</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">jurisdiction over the application upon the filing of an appeal to the TTAB,</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">this simultaneous pursuit of reconsideration and appeal often necessitates</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">a remand by the TTAB to the examining attorney for a decision on the</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">request for reconsideration. If the request is denied, then the case is</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">transferred back to the TTAB. If the request is granted, and the examining</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">attorney reconsiders the final action, the appeal or petition may become</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">moot. The need for these remands and transfers contributes to the burden on</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">the applicant and the USPTO, and prolongs the pendency of the case.</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">In order to eliminate some appeals and petitions and reduce the need for</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">these remands and transfers, the proposed rule provides that a request for</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">reconsideration must be filed within three months of the final action,</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">while the six-month period for appeal or petition remains unchanged.</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Comments must be received by [60 days from the date of publication in the Federal Register] to ensure consideration.</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I agree with the rationale here, but I'm not sure the process is the best to meet the stated goals, given the shortened evidentiary timeline.</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Curious what others think.</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Cheers!</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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