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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, since \u201ctunc\u201d just means \u201cthen\u201d, I\u2019d say we have a nunc pro tunc, it\u2019s just the \u201ctunc\u201d is a future \u201cthen\u201d. Just for laughs, I just pretend went through the first few steps of the process for an assignment \u201cnunc pro tunc\u201d. So, I can
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think you can file for recordation almost anything (even if it is really a non-right) under whatever is closest to the \u201cmisc\u201d category, if you don\u2019t have to state an effective date (like, I think the regular assignment you just enter
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misleading (even if permissible) to record an interest that isn\u2019t an interest yet and may never be. Even though interests in trademarks are not perfected at the PTO, it still serves a key \u201cnotice\u201d function.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Would you call it \u201cnunc pro futurum\u201d?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I agree with Carl.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Would the USPTO record it? Once you put in the effective date in the recordation cover sheet, I think it would be kicked out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 7, 2025 1:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Oppedahl Carl <</span><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Prospective Assignments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Seems an \u201casssignment\u201d as of a future date is a promise to assign, not an actual assignment.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">an action for breach of promise, but thee contingent assignee won\u2019t have a confirmed property interest<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">by the earlier document.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I have recorded many<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i>nunc pro tunc</i> assignments over the years but is it possible to record a PROSPECTIVE assignment e.g., a typical assignment
document but with the effective date being in the future? Any other issues beyond recordation? It does not seem like "best practice" maybe\u2014 but are there any legal/USPTO problems with doing so?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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