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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Trademark Center failures (was 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">You can do this by creating a "TEMPLATE" filing and then click "actions" and then "save as new draft." It's a bit cumbersome but seems to work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 16, 2025 2:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kevin Grierson <<a href="mailto:kgrierson@cm.law">kgrierson@cm.law</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Trademark Center failures (was 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?)</span>
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<p class="xmsonormal">If any PTO lurkers are out there, it would be great to be able to save an application even after it has been filed, because sometimes we need to file multiple applications for the same party, and most of the information remains the same,
so it would be great to be able to re-use the saved application as a template for additional filings. Unless I am missing something, the saved draft disappears now as soon as you file and there’s no way to download the saved file as there was with TEAS.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri (Body)",serif;color:gray"><a href="https://www.cm.law/cm-law-formerly-culhane-meadows-launches-second-decade-with-fresh-name-and-modern-brand/"><span style="color:#0F172E;text-decoration:none">Please note: Culhane Meadows is now CM Law</span></a></span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 16, 2025 12:04 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Laura A. Genovese <<a href="mailto:lgenovese@kassgen.com">lgenovese@kassgen.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Trademark Center failures (was 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I think they are still working on it. I participated in a beta earlier this week for some new features they are working on. They have definitely heard the complaints about how we need the
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<p class="xmsonormal">Just looking at Trademark Center again -- it's remarkable, if not surprising, to find there has been no update (or 'release') in nearly TWO MONTHS. [<a href="https://trademarkcenter.uspto.gov/release-notes">https://trademarkcenter.uspto.gov/release-notes</a>]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 19, 2024 12:24 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Trademark Center failures (was 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I just went through (suffered through) a trademark filing in Trademark Center with a client.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Over and over again I would fill in various fields (for example where the applicant is incorporated) and click through to later steps in the click path, and then send it to the client, and the version received by the client would be missing one or more of
the fields.<o:p></o:p></p>
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