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Thanks Emil, that's very interesting. For what it's worth, I find
Amazon to be a fairly useless marketplace for this very reason.
Nowadays the results list is garbage. You used to be able to scan
for reputable sellers but I can't find them anymore. Whenever I
search, virtually all the results are for consonant-only products,
generally with spelling or grammatical errors in the listing. I'm
not going to buy consonant-only computer cables because they might
fry my electronics, or eye hooks because they will be made of
inferior metal, or a replacement stylus because it might not mate
with my tablet. I recently read an article published in the <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.inta.org/resources/the-trademark-reporter/">TMR</a>
suggesting there would be a post-trademark world because AI will be
so good at ascertaining what product we need we won't need to rely
on trademarks, but we aren't there yet. <br>
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So in IMHO, while many of the trademarks are actually legitimately
used for products, Amazon has successfully fostered a marketplace so
full of crap that it has become completely unreliable. Perhaps they
should direct their efforts at verifying the legitimacy of vendors
and the reliability of their products (gee - isn't that what stores
used to do?), not using a trademark registration as a proxy for it.<br>
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Pam<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/2025 11:55 AM, Emil Ali via
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I think I
have some insight to what everyone might consider a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">First, we
have to understand why \u201cthese applicants\u201d file trademark
applications with the USPTO. It can easily be explained,
not by the USPTO\u2019s inaccurate suggestion that China is
subsidizing filings, but because \u201cthese applicants\u201d want to
sell on Amazon.com, and that company requires (currently) a
pending application with a trademark authority. In the US,
it would be the USPTO.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Why Amazon
requires a trademark application is simple\u2014they rely on the
government to be the determining factor (to save them money)
on who owns a TM, and hopefully to make the takedown process
easier. So if I want to sell my Tumi Backpack on their
website, I cannot\u2014because I don\u2019t have the Amazon Brand
Registry Code from Tumi\u2019s mark. When people ask why there
are so many gibberish trademarks filed\u2014one can just see that
those are the easiest to fly through the USPTO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Next, not
all the attorneys who get involved are bad. Many are down on
their luck, and many more have their identity stolen.
Others also work with larger staff to get what their clients
want\u2014a filed application to get onto ABR. I have seen all
ends of the spectrum\u2014not everyone who represents applicants
from China are \u201cbad.\u201d<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I also
understand that Amazon is feeling the pressure of their
mistake. On of their outside counsels, Brad Behar, has been
filing \u201canonymous\u201d grievances against attorneys who practice
before the USPTO\u2014usually ones that complained to Amazon
about being on a blacklist (remember that for a while if you
took over the POA in an application subject to sanctions,
you were placed on a blacklist). They have since expanded
their grievance submission process to anyone who has filed a
large number of trademark applications from China.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Finally, the
USPTO is obligated, under the APA, to allow attorneys
licensed in any state or territory to appear before them in
non-patent matters. As such, I don\u2019t believe an exam is
possible, absent congressional intervention. I also don\u2019t
know how much that would help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">My
take\u2014solve the problem by telling Amazon to stop abusing the
trademark system. If sellers in China did not need to apply
for a trademark application, we would not have the flood of
applications. Unfortunately, though, Amazon has outsized
influence at the USPTO, and many people on this listserv may
also see a lower volume of applications, because non-Chinese
sellers are looking for the same ABR code.
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> on
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, January 20, 2025 at 11:41</span><span
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<b>To: </b>Annette Heller
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tmattorneyheller@aol.com"><tmattorneyheller@aol.com></a>, For trademark
practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
legal advice.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Miriam Richter, Esq.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mrichter@richtertrademarks.com"><mrichter@richtertrademarks.com></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] 2024 USPTO
filings (mostly not from this list)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">All
good points and some of the reasons I gave up on it.
My crusade was actually not because of the fraud
issues but was, as Pam describes it, the knowledge
gap. It was also before the US attorney requirement.
I can\u2019t tell you how many meetings I attended where
the quality of applications was the source of our
angst. As Carl can confirm (because he is an
exception) my gripes started with the patent
attorneys and the others who do trademark work on
the side. Those of us who are 100% trademark do a
lot of damage control for applications filed by the
non-TM practitioners.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Since
then, however, our collective focus (and mine) has
been shifted to bigger and more pressing issues. I
don\u2019t think we will find a solution but rather, will
continue chopping away at the problem in small bites
by making small changes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Into
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Annette Heller via
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 20, 2025 2:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] 2024 USPTO
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I
agree with Pam's reasoning. An exam won't solve
any of the problems and would become another
administrative expense</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In a message dated 1/20/2025
12:15:42 PM Central Standard Time,
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">As one of only
25 certified trademark specialists in the
country,* and having been on the committee
that prepares the questions and grades the
exams, I think I can speak with some
authority!
<br>
<br>
I don't think the problem is one of
knowledge but one of identity of the filer,
and the PTO claims to be addressing the
latter problem (in part by diligently
rooting out those virtual addresses). The
difficulty of an exam is where you draw the
line on knowledge. Will you draw it where
those business lawyers who file 2-3
applications are year, and surely don't know
the TMEP (and, god forbid, are still filing
paper applications) will fail, or not bother
to take it? Who does that serve? (Well us,
for starters.) How huge is the
administrative burden and cost of testing
tens of thousands of people?<br>
<br>
The data you cited revealed very few offices
filing a lot of applications. IMHO, what the
attorney representation requirement did was
turn a cottage industry into a consolidated
industry that works way more efficiently
than those individuals ever did. The
industrial machine will have a lawyer take
(and pass) the exam and still file just as
many fraudulent applications. Crooks gonna
crook and there are plenty of lawyers who
would be willing to flout the ethical rules
to do it - I mean, it's not like they send
you to jail for it. So you won't have solved
the problem but you will have reduced the
number lawyers available to the public for
legitimate work. So I don't see testing as a
step that will actually do much to address
the problem.<br>
<br>
Pam<br>
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*AFAIK, North Carolina is the only state to
have a trademark specialty and there are
currently 25 of us on the list.
<span style="font-family:"Apple Color
Emoji"">\U0001f44b\U0001f44b</span> my fellow NC
specialists!<o:p></o:p></p>
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Chestek<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/20/2025 9:36 AM,
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps the list serv
can pick up the mantle if there is
consensus here that this might be a
viable solution.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd be especially
thrilled if we could swap this solution
out for the ineffective, arduous
Domicile Requirement that does nothing
to achieve it's stated purpose (as
Clarivate's table shows) and instead
causes bona fide applicants time, money
and stress.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Jan 20, 2025, at 9:32<span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM,
Miriam Richter, Esq.
<a
href="mailto:mrichter@richtertrademarks.com"
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Lara,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">For years, I
was very vocal about this idea (as
many on this list serve can attest).
As hard as I tried, and as many PTO
and AIPLA officials as I talked to, I
could not get any traction. If you
want to pick up the mantle, you have
my full support! </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Best, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Miriam </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:black">Miriam
Richter, Attorney at Law, P.L.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><strong><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">From:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
E-trademarks
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href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On
Behalf Of </span></strong>Lara
Pearson via E-trademarks<br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sent:</span></strong>
Monday, January 20, 2025 12:21 PM<br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To:</span></strong>
</span><a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Cc:</span></strong>
Lara Pearson
</span><a
href="mailto:lara@brandgeek.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><lara@brandgeek.net></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">;
</span><a
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target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span
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<strong><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Subject:</span></strong>
Re: [E-trademarks] 2024 USPTO
filings (mostly not from this
list)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">One of
the suggestions I made in my post was
that the US PTO administer a trademark
admissions exam similar in nature to
that which it uses for patent attorneys.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">I
would love to know ya'll thoughts on
whether that could work to address the
issue of fraudulent, primarily
Chinese, TM apps.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">I'm
especially curious to hear from Carl
and the other patent/TM attorneys on
the list.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Happy
MLK Day.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Warmly,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Lara
Pearson, Esq.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Law
Office of Lara Pearson Ltd, PBC
& Brand Geek<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">775.833.1600<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><a
href="http://Calendly.com/BrandGeek" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Calendly.com/BrandGeek</a>
(let's meet)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Creative
typoing by iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
Jan 19, 2025, at 6:02<span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM,
Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks
<<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Fascinating reading, thanks for
posting Lara.</p>
<p>Pam</p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Pamela
S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW MAILING
ADDRESS<br>
4641 Post St.<br>
Unit 4316<br>
El Dorado Hills, CA 95762<br>
+1 919-800-8033<br>
pamela@chesteklegal<br>
<a
href="http://www.chesteklegal.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.chesteklegal.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv3048311447msonormal">On
1/19/2025 5:25 PM, Lara Pearson
via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Hi
List friends:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p
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</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><span
style="color:black">Happy
Sunday Funday.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal">I
reposted Robert Reading &
Clarivate's data on 2024 US TM
filings on LinkedIn: <a
href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brandgeek_trademarks-activity-7286822761556033536-bRZ3?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brandgeek_trademarks-activity-7286822761556033536-bRZ3?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Let's
discuss (here, and there, and
everywhere) and may we each
find a joyful way to honor MLK
tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal">I
feel grateful for each of you,
and this list brings me joy
(and so much wisdom).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Cheers!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Lara
Pearson, Esq.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Law
Office of Lara Pearson Ltd,
PBC & Brand Geek<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal">775.833.1600<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal"><a
href="http://Calendly.com/BrandGeek" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Calendly.com/BrandGeek</a>
(let's meet)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="yiv3048311447msonormal">Creative
typoing by iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p
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