<img width="1" height="1" src='https://gcfagjf.r.bh.d.sendibt3.com/tr/op/iDqIVzRfYJbsYl3XzesGSdRTIcF4DgPAIZLxCuho_KJb3LcBAqssCxV2zpk9SeeWoZKeACcrTQseKH12sUtK2hmfIabT6601SQ7j9gVRWq8qJBg4VwmQr3tuyVgvFRYa_iVjSHfIo-eGxdKdC5wGPL_frl0N9lm4eUsk52hJbnxrwlx8QypoPdMLeLnvZ7fweZAvdJ1NIeJHPJoquXEtW5NE2fmVHUZlJA' /><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>In patents there are assistant examiners and primary examiners, as well as supervisory patent examiners (SPEs) who are above the primaries. An assistant examiner isn't allowed to sign an OA by himself - he must have the primary on the action with him; <a href="https://gcfagjf.r.bh.d.sendibt3.com/tr/cl/uOKKe2y1-V29LcMtACDj8eSV9H1dhN4El66HXZxe57RN6cNX1nANyNTw0yz9Pp5BXvEKfxo5NkzvUJUdj5GydvA4URsp4BJIfqoDrl2Wh0LgR0Wfk-vshI-9J6CybaUCjTLj_de0MWU6DnEwVu1aMMJNxhE3Q6XNmDHyxNxq6IQRKDroXgtc7nn6yOGJQjMomakhwMIAjmn3dTfh_8HWDkJeM7CpbsA8zHgOoLYr5adf0XdfpYziG56AsHKoyb2MVilHdme5UK1GImo--2r5mqWkOryMN_whxoD1crtfY-w09aaMPfiZm3tqHwhW94BqXwKdAfsQ">37 CFR 1004</a> even lists things for which a primary is responsible.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Sounds like there's not a parallel requirement on the TM side, hard as that is to believe. <br></div><div><br clear="all"></div>Dan<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 8:52\u202fPM Martin, Winfield B. (Perkins Coie) via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-4028835863942290229">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I\u2019m sympathetic to new practitioners making mistakes (and Lord knows I did), but I would expect the PTO to conduct some sort of supervision or review of new hires\u2019 work to
avoid this very problem\u2014much as a firm reviews the work product of its new associates.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">Win Martin<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:rgb(91,57,183)">Perkins Coie</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Dugger via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 23, 2025 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Dugger <<a href="mailto:jedugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">jedugger@gmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] "Trademark Examining Law Clerk"??<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Newly hired Examining Attorneys start as law clerks until they are admitted to the bar. This is likely a recent graduate who just started with the agency. New hires must be admitted to the bar within one year to keep the job. We all make
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