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 is effectively a zero-sum game and then go deep into what a waste all this government is, I can see the tortured path ahead. So I\u2019ll wish you the best and sign off! My mistake in responding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Don Stout &lt;dstout@patlawyers.com&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2025 6:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Laura Geyer &lt;lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com&gt;; For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [E-trademarks] [External Sender] Another wrinkle to the &quot;buyout&quot;--does the administration have the ability to pay the workers who resign?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">I\u2019m not sure why we are obligated to show how much we care for and support federal employees any more than private employees who live with the uncertainty of future employment
 in the business world every day.&nbsp; Cleaning house in the extremely inefficient federal bureaucracy is long overdue, particularly in view of the fact that we continue to run a deficit upwards of $1.5 trillion annually.&nbsp; No one is guaranteed permanent employment
 at a location of their choice forever.&nbsp; The abuse of locality pay provisions by remote workers who live in low-cost areas needs special attention.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">I\u2019m also not sure what you mean by a funding issue.&nbsp; There is a reason the offer only extends to the end of the current fiscal year, so no additional funding is necessary
 over what is already allocated for these federal jobs.&nbsp; There is nothing unlawful about ordering federal employees who are not covered by separate remote work agreements to return to their offices.&nbsp; Who is and who is not covered by the order will get sorted
 out.&nbsp; Probably most USPTO remote workers will get to continue being remote, so our \u201cfriends and colleagues\u201d in the USPTO will be able to continue putting out the same shoddy work product we complain about on these list serves every day.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">I worked in the USPTO on the patent side for eight years, the last four as a primary examiner.&nbsp; Good examination, in both divisions of the USPTO, is a collaborative process,
 and it would benefit the quality of examination greatly were there be at least a partial return to office-based examination.&nbsp; Younger examiners simply do not get the training and tutelage that they should be getting to be quality examiners.&nbsp; When remote work
 became an option in the 90\u2019s, there were core days where everyone needed to be in the office.&nbsp; In view of the current shortage of office space, those days would probably need to rotate, but in the long run the USPTO would be a much more effective agency with
 a partial return to office examination.&nbsp; Unfortunately, the outgoing administration made that a near impossibility by ensuring that new labor agreements were signed during the transition period, once again prioritizing the unionized federal employees over
 the USPTO customers and the public.&nbsp; So there will continue to be plenty of complaint traffic on these list serves for years to come, sadly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Laura Geyer &lt;<a href="mailto:lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com">lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com</a>&gt;
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2025 3:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Don Stout &lt;<a href="mailto:dstout@patlawyers.com">dstout@patlawyers.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [E-trademarks] [External Sender] Another wrinkle to the &quot;buyout&quot;--does the administration have the ability to pay the workers who resign?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">Don:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">It\u2019s a sham because there is no evidence that the executive had the authority to make this offer, nor that there is funding allocated for such an offer, nor is this how that
 works.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">Your reference to this being something private companies do is inapposite. This is not a private company, and there are rules and ways and means.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">I think we need to be clear how much we support and care for our friends and neighbors and colleagues in the federal government. They\u2019ve been put through an industrial washing
 machine in the last week and a half with nobody knowing what\u2019s happening next. And this has been against a backdrop of demonizing government employees for months (well, years, actually).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">So again, the people in charge have NO idea how any of this works and until they have the full message from the courts, nobody should accept anything or take any employment impacting
 action without further clarity. Nothing that has happened in the last few days is in any way encouraging that this situation is improving.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">And that\u2019s the expert advice I\u2019m hearing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">Oh, and in case it helps, if any of your kids are in college or college bound, you should have received a note today or last night that for the moment, the announcement that
 all grants and loan programs are suspended (which is now stayed anyway) does <b>
not apply currently to the Direct Loan or Pell grant programs</b>. A lot of kids were looking at possibly having to leave college, so this is good news. It did say that in the future all of these programs will be run past the test of whether they are compatible
 with the administration\u2019s philosophy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Stout via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2025 6:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Don Stout &lt;<a href="mailto:dstout@patlawyers.com">dstout@patlawyers.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] [External Sender] Another wrinkle to the &quot;buyout&quot;--does the administration have the ability to pay the workers who resign?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nancy Prager via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2025 3:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nancy Prager &lt;<a href="mailto:nancyprager@yahoo.com">nancyprager@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] [External Sender] Another wrinkle to the &quot;buyout&quot;--does the administration have the ability to pay the workers who resign?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv6211050112msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">This is from someone in the PTO examining corps: The offer was not to put people on administrative leave.&nbsp; If they resign, they still have to work
 until the end of the FY.&nbsp; If they don\u2019t, they can be fired.&nbsp; No lump sum payout or package was offered.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="yiv6211050112msonormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Ms. Ronni S. Jillions</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="yiv6211050112msonormal"><a name="_Hlk33455259"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Admitted to practice in Washington DC and</span></i></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk33455259"></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2025 6:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [External Sender][E-trademarks] Another wrinkle to the &quot;buyout&quot;--does the administration have the ability to pay the workers who resign?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="yiv6211050112msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">Sen. Kaine on the Senate floor claimed &quot;The President has no authority to make that offer. There's no budget line item to pay people who are not
 showing up for work...If you accept that offer and resign, he'll stiff you...&quot;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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