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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"> E-trademarks &lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2025 7:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kevin Grierson &lt;kgrierson@cm.law&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] [External Sender] Another wrinkle to the &quot;buyout&quot;--does the administration have the ability to pay the workers who resign?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And here\u2019s the turd icing on the crap cake: the OPM is capping severance at $25K, which is certainly a lot less than most (all?) employees would earn in the 8 months between now and September 30.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/julie-burke-492264120_voluntary-separation-incentive-payments-activity-7290225255778766849-e9HJ?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop">https://www.linkedin.com/posts/julie-burke-492264120_voluntary-separation-incentive-payments-activity-7290225255778766849-e9HJ?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/workforce-restructuring/voluntary-separation-incentive-payments/">https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/workforce-restructuring/voluntary-separation-incentive-payments/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laura Geyer via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2025 6:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Laura Geyer &lt;<a href="mailto:lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com">lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] [External Sender] Another wrinkle to the &quot;buyout&quot;--does the administration have the ability to pay the workers who resign?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Welp, once again it turns out governing is nothing but a pain in the butt when you\u2019re trying to rule by fiat in areas you know nothing about.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Employment lawyers I am seeing are <b>strongly recommending not accepting anything at all right now at face value</b>, and certainly
<b>do not accept any kind of buyout/resignation package</b> until there is some or any clarity on whether the administration is in any way compliant with law, existing contracts, existing appropriations, or anything at all. I have a printout of the one my husband
 got when the blast went out to a lot of the State Dept. yesterday (oh, sorry, the \u201cDeep State\u201d Department) and it is different from the ones going out to other places today.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, for some of the announcements from OMB, they clearly came in from the outside because the disseminators didn\u2019t know how to scrub metadata so we know that some of them are direct from the computers of Heritage 2025 folks. Love it or
 hate it, that\u2019s spectacularly inappropriate.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The suspension or alleged cancellation of the WIC program, Headstart, Medicaid, freeze on all grants and loans, foreign aid, holy crap who can keep up with it \u2026 all of that is in front of judges right now in part because the president does
 not for the most part have the authority to impound already allocated funds. So let\u2019s set aside for a second that stopping Medicaid and WIC dead suddenly is just, well, bad, it\u2019s also not possible, as far as I know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tellingly, in at least one of the filings I saw in response I think to the suit against the freezes was the DOJ saying this filing is just too soon and it hasn\u2019t had a chance to look at all the documents, what with all the other cases.
 Uh, guys, this is your picnic. The USPTO didn\u2019t start the fire!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So there should be ZERO confidence in anything and I mean anything at all other than the scattershot rapid-fire alleged freezes and stops and firings and and and are sowing utter chaos and confusion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Actual people are being actually hurt by all of this and it is wrong.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronni Jillions via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2025 6:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ronni Jillions &lt;<a href="mailto:Ronni.Jillions@FisherBroyles.com">Ronni.Jillions@FisherBroyles.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] [External Sender] Another wrinkle to the &quot;buyout&quot;--does the administration have the ability to pay the workers who resign?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is from someone in the PTO examining corps: The offer was not to put people on administrative leave.&nbsp; If they resign, they still have to work until the end of the FY.&nbsp; If they don\u2019t, they can be fired.&nbsp; No lump sum payout or package
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ronni &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2025 6:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kevin Grierson &lt;<a href="mailto:kgrierson@cm.law">kgrierson@cm.law</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [External Sender][E-trademarks] Another wrinkle to the &quot;buyout&quot;--does the administration have the ability to pay the workers who resign?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sen. Kaine on the Senate floor claimed &quot;The President has no authority to make that offer. There's no budget line item to pay people who are not showing up for work...If you accept that offer and resign, he'll stiff you...&quot;&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal">Obviously there\u2019s politics at play here, but this does raise the question: can the administration simply put everyone on paid administrative leave if they offer their resignation?&nbsp; If not, what happens to the PTO workers who resign?&nbsp; Are
 they just out of a job (and with no \u201cseverance\u201d pay)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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