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<p><font face="Tahoma">Yes. Their leader was issued a get out of
jail free card. Have to have goodwill to get that.</font><br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 7, 2025 2:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice.
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<b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com"><carl@oppedahl.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Proud Boys trademark
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:0%"><span
style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">On 2/7/2025 2:31 PM,
carla calcagno via E-trademarks wrote: Perhaps not as
crazy as you think. On Jan 6 the Proud Boys attacked a
well known historic black church in washington because
it was displayi <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">sophospsmartbannerend
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/7/2025 2:31 PM, carla calcagno via
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps not as crazy as you think. On Jan
6 the Proud Boys attacked a well known historic black church
in washington because it was displaying a Black Lives Matter
sign. The church sued and asked for damages . Proud boys
defaulted . Church then sued to enforce the judgment and
sought transfer and or lien on the name as an asset of
group. Judge awarded it - are you suggesting judge cannot
award IP to satisfy a tort judgement ? Assuming church makes
use of the mark in an appropriate period , why not?
Personally I\u2019m thrilled . <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My thrilled reaction matches yours. But
wouldn't it have been helpful if the judge's order were to
have explicitly conveyed not only the registration but also
the associated goodwill?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 7, 2025, at 12:36<span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM,
Julia Anne Matheson via E-trademarks <a
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It\u2019s absurd.
I\u2019m seeing it too. Makes no sense at all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Miriam Richter, Esq. via
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 7, 2025 12:29 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Proud Boys
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I\u2019ve had a
crazy week so it is possible that I\u2019m missing
something really basic here because my brain is
fried, but, how is an historic Black church in DC
going to own the trademark? How will they show
use? I found four pending applications and no
registrations. All four are owned by different
individuals/companies and all but one are 1b.<o:p></o:p></p>
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trademark PROUD BOYS indicate a Black church as
the source of the goods/services being provided?
Is this a common law trademark thing?<o:p></o:p></p>
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