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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Pam\u2019s correct:
<i>Burgess v. Gilman</i>, 475 F. Supp. 2d 1051 (D. Nev. 2007), is the opinion arising the federal government\u2019s seizure of the MUSTANG RANCH marks for legal brothel services to satisfy the owner\u2019s payroll tax obligations. Not surprisingly, the government didn\u2019t
resume the marks\u2019 use itself and apparently didn\u2019t intend to do so. Instead, it ultimately auctioned them off to buyers who successfully fended off abandonment- and assignment-in-gross-based attacks on the marks\u2019 validity. Although it\u2019s difficult as a factual
proposition to imagine it doing so, the church here might well either take the same course of action or license the marks\u2019 use to another party.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> In <i>
United States v. Mongol Nation</i>, 370 F. Supp. 3d 1090 (C.D. Cal. 2019), however, the court held that the seizure of marks owned by a motorcycle gang in the context of a criminal RICO prosecution constituted excessive punishment in violation of the Eighth
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 7, 2025 2:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pamela Chestek <pamela@chesteklegal.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Proud Boys trademark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">This isn't particularly uncommon; the federal government owned the registration for a brothel for awhile (MUSTANG RANCH) and an outlaw motorcycle gang (MONGOLS).
If memory serves the MUSTANG RANCH registration was later challenged but held not<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>This isn't particularly uncommon; the federal government owned the registration for a brothel for awhile (MUSTANG RANCH) and an outlaw motorcycle gang (MONGOLS). If memory serves the MUSTANG RANCH registration was later challenged but held not abandoned
because the government had an excuse for non-use, it was trying to decide how to dispose of it.
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<p>It's not the assignment that's invalid; that's a court-ordered transfer of an asset. The question is what the new owner does with it afterwards to maintain (or perfect) the validity. The IDs don't mention anything about being a racist organization or fomenting
riots, so a church could easily begin offering the services described in the applications.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/7/2025 9:36 AM, Crane, Susan via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Been wondering this as well. The decision is out of the DC Superior Court, so the judge may not really understand trademark law and the implications of the decision.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Miriam Richter, Esq. via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 7, 2025 12:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
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<b>Cc:</b> Miriam Richter, Esq. <a href="mailto:mrichter@richtertrademarks.com"><mrichter@richtertrademarks.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Proud Boys trademark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">All, I\u2019ve had a crazy week so it is possible that I\u2019m missing something really basic here because my brain is fried, but, how is an historic Black church in DC
going to own the trademark? How will they show use? I found four pending</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">I\u2019ve had a crazy week so it is possible that I\u2019m missing something really basic here because my brain is fried, but, how is an historic Black church in DC going to own the
trademark? How will they show use? I found four pending applications and no registrations. All four are owned by different individuals/companies and all but one are 1b.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">How can the trademark PROUD BOYS indicate a Black church as the source of the goods/services being provided? Is this a common law trademark thing?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Does anyone have access to the opinion?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Best, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Miriam </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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