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<p>Yes it looks like the Trademark Office is violating its own rules
on this.</p>
<p>But I have a very different question. How can it possibly be
that the developers did not fix this months ago? How can it be
that today, in the sixth month of service for this system, this
has not yet been fixed?</p>
<p>I guess if you file ITU, you would not run into this mistake.</p>
<p>And I guess if you file use-based, and if you decide to take a
walk on the wild side and file only one specimen of use, you would
not run into this mistake.</p>
<p>Am I somehow in the sixth month of Tradmark Center, the first
person ever to try to file a use-base case with more than one
specimen of use?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/8/2025 4:29 PM, Tim Ackermann
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<div>Oh no, you have to be kidding. This is remarkably stupid
design. </div>
<div>Moreover, isn't requiring this a violation of the Rules,
which expressly only require a date for one item? </div>
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<h1 class="gmail-annotate-ok gmail-page-title">§2.34 Bases
for filing a trademark or service mark application.</h1>
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<li id="gmail-l-784061ce-5105-4b36-a1b7-2a33949ea1b7"
class="gmail-nobull gmail-annotate-ok">(a) An application
for a trademark or service mark must include one or more
of the following five filing bases:
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<li id="gmail-l-75c914d7-85e3-49e4-abd7-fbae585222ea"
class="gmail-nobull gmail-annotate-ok">(1) Use in
commerce under section 1(a) of the Act. The
requirements for an application under section 1(a) of
the Act are:
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<li
id="gmail-l-706b5cfb-e384-4469-a2eb-c080fcd4b1ef"
class="gmail-nobull gmail-annotate-ok">(i) ...</li>
<li
id="gmail-l-86d06428-9aee-425d-a18d-91f5742c8d35"
class="gmail-nobull gmail-annotate-ok">(ii) The
date of the applicant\u2019s first use of the mark
anywhere on or in connection with the goods or
services;</li>
<li
id="gmail-l-99182f59-c8a8-4f1c-b494-8b0fc266ed89"
class="gmail-nobull gmail-annotate-ok">(iii) The
date of the applicant\u2019s first use of the mark in
commerce;</li>
<li
id="gmail-l-4f99c2a7-df17-47f1-bcf7-1d1b1f1342f0"
class="gmail-nobull gmail-annotate-ok">(iv) ...;
and</li>
<li
id="gmail-l-3b9703c0-ccff-4e05-b347-3b1ffaadd957"
class="gmail-nobull gmail-annotate-ok">(v) If the
application specifies more than one item of goods
or services in a class, the dates of use in
paragraphs (a)(1)(ii) and (iii) of this section
are required for only one item of goods or
services specified in that class.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<div>Tim Ackermann</div>
<div>The Ackermann Law Firm</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 5:11\u202fPM
Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <<a
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote">Today I was trying to prepare a
trademark application in Trademark <br>
Center. The click path eventually brought me to the place to
upload my <br>
specimens of use. This application has only one trademark
class. I was <br>
uploading six specimens of use.<br>
<br>
For each of my six specimens of use, TC requires that I
laboriously <br>
enter a DOFU and a DOFUIC.<br>
<br>
The developers apparently contemplate that there might be six
DOFUs, one <br>
for each of my specimens of use. This strikes me as stupid.
The DOFU <br>
does not apply to the specimens. It applies to the
trademark. Right?<br>
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The developers apparently contemplate that there might be six
DOFUICs, <br>
one for each of my specimens of use. This strikes me as
stupid. The <br>
DOFUIC does not apply to the specimens. It applies to the
trademark. <br>
Right?<br>
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