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If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately. Please note that general marketing updates/legal news alerts provided by the firm or its attorneys are for informational purposes only and should not be relied on as legal advice for any specific situation. Laws can change rapidly and, therefore, you should always consult with your CM Law attorney to ensure you have the most accurate and current counsel pertaining to your situation. ​<br /></p></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div>-----Original Message-----<br />From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> On Behalf Of Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks<br />Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 11:57 AM<br />To: For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br />Cc: Carl Oppedahl <carl@oppedahl.com><br />Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] cryptographic signatures? (was Applications owned by same owners no longer examined together?)<br /><br />EXTERNAL EMAIL<br /><br />On 2/10/2025 9:45 AM, Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks wrote:<br />><br />> If anybody sees a posting from me on a listserv, by definition it is <br />> not encrypted. Any email client that says my email posting to a <br />> listserv is encrypted is broken and needs fixing.<br />><br />> Many of my email postings to the listservs are signed. I suppose what <br />> must sometimes happen is that somebody who is reading one of my <br />> postings might have an email client that makes a big mistake in its <br />> interpretation or handling of the cryptographic signature.<br />><br />Oh and it is commonplace for Microsoft Outlook to be broken in its handling of email messages that were send by someone who does not use Microsoft Outlook. I do not use Microsoft Outlook.<br /><br />I have always assumed that this broken handling is Microsoft's way of being passive-aggressive about trying to force users of non-Microsoft software to give up and pay money to Microsoft to use Microsoft software.<br /><br />A further challenge is that many people who receive email are receiving the email through a system operated by their employer, and the employer's system includes anti-spam and anti-virus functions. And the anti-spam and anti-virus functions are broken in the way that they handle emails that are cryptographically signed.<br /><br />Anybody who has trouble reading an email from me (due to its being cryptographically signed) ought to contact their IT department and ask their IT department to fix their broken software.<br /><br /></div></body></html>