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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">\u201cWe can\u2019t help you, you\u2019re seeking an advisory opinion\u201d is an increasingly common refrain from Examiners. I received one of these the other week when I wrote to the Examiner
in search of a clarification of an ID. I then asked to speak with the Examiner to further clarify matters. She has, in turn, simply ignored my request. Examiners are seemingly less interested these days in speaking with us to resolve problems. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lara Pearson via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 12, 2025 11:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lara Pearson <lara@brandgeek.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Have I lost my mind or has the Examiner lost theirs?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am feeling confused. I received a refusal based on the ID of services. The Examiner's initial proposal for a revised ID had nothing to do with what my client was offering. I sent the Examiner an email stating that their proposed ID was
inaccurate and asking them to work with me on an appropriate ID that accurately reflects my clients offering. I then received this email from an Examiner this morning\u2026<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">While we are not allowed to give advisory opinions, the best I can suggest for what you described below is the following, if accurate:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> LLLLLLLLLL (there was an actual ID here that will work for my client). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I hope this helps, but please understand that any further proposals should be filed in an amendment for official review.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:17.5pt;font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody",serif;color:black">I don't believe I am asking for an advisory opinion. I am asking the USPTO Examiner to work with me to craft an acceptable ID that both meets the requirements of the ID rules
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<span style="font-size:17.5pt;font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody",serif;color:black">Thanks for helping set me straight.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:17.5pt;font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody",serif;color:black">Gratefully,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lara Pearson, Esq.<o:p></o:p></p>
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