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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I was thinking Dawn Donut when I wrote my response!!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> E-trademarks &lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Davis, Ted via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 14, 2025 4:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Davis, Ted &lt;TDavis@ktslaw.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Dirt Candy TM Dispute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A single-location federal registrant on the Lower East Side and a single-location junior user 1,778 miles away in Wimberly, Texas?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No need to go on the offensive and burn $10,000 on an ill-fated application when you can respond with two words:
<i>Dawn Donut</i>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laura Geyer via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 14, 2025 5:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Laura Geyer &lt;<a href="mailto:lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com">lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Dirt Candy TM Dispute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Totally. I once was dealing with a situation where \u201copposing\u201d counsel was so obstructive, self-important, bumptious, and just generally an assclown (and not an
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<p class="MsoNormal">Totally.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I once was dealing with a situation where \u201copposing\u201d counsel was so obstructive, self-important, bumptious, and just generally an assclown (and not an IP lawyer) and also nearly impossible to reach was in a situation where I knew 100% that
 my client and the other party were in agreement about nearly everything and everybody wanted the deal. He kept calling me \u201csweetie\u201d and not the way my grandad could get away with and bragged about all the big deal actors he\u2019d allegedly represented and had
 to run to a meeting with right now bye.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I finally had to suggest the client reach out to their counterpart and let them know that their attorney was refusing to negotiate and kept threatening things I was pretty sure his client hadn\u2019t authorized him to say like [list of things].<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also suspected he was coked to the gills, but I didn\u2019t say that. They ended up firing him, and their formerly &nbsp;more junior lawyer and I took the terms our clients had agreed to, turned them into the ridiculously simple agreement the situation
 called for, and called it a week. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeepers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sam Castree via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 14, 2025 3:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Sam Castree &lt;<a href="mailto:sam@castreelaw.com">sam@castreelaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Dirt Candy TM Dispute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Agreed.&nbsp; I've told many a client that, while I'd be happy to get involved in things, it can really change the dynamic when suddenly the lawyers get brought in.&nbsp;
 Coaching from the shadows is often the way to go. <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:#FF6600">Sam&nbsp;Castree, III</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 2:29<span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM Cumbow, Bob via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">So glad to see that so many of my colleagues agree with what I've learned during my time as an attorney: We always get a better results if we see ourselves as collaborators rather than combatants.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Eric Morton via E-trademarks<br>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 11:48 AM<br>
To: For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Eric Morton &lt;<a href="mailto:emorton@clearskylaw.com" target="_blank">emorton@clearskylaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Dirt Candy TM Dispute<br>
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I heartily concur. I tell my clients to talk to me before they negotiate and after they negotiate, but leave the lawyers out of the negotiations.<br>
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Eric D. Morton<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks<br>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 11:29 AM<br>
To: For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Carl Oppedahl &lt;<a href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com" target="_blank">carl@oppedahl.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Dirt Candy TM Dispute<br>
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&nbsp;Over the span of many years, I have seen many situations where the step of getting lawyers into the situation made things far worse instead of better.&nbsp; Many times my suspicion is that most of the blame would lie with one of the lawyers and not the other. That
 the blameworthy lawyer would either consciously or subconsciously select the behavior path that would make the most money for the lawyer, regardless of whether this would align with the interests of that lawyer's client.<br>
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There are many times where I ended up coaching my client about stuff, and then I suggested my client speak person-to-person with the nonlawyer human being on the other side.&nbsp; And the clients would come back with a deal sketched onto a cocktail napkin.&nbsp; The
 lawyers were then told &quot;make it so&quot;.<br>
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And even then I can think of many times where once again the introduction of the lawyers into the situation, post-cocktail-napkin, ruined everything.&nbsp; And again I would have the suspicion that most of the blame would lie with one of the lawyers.<br>
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Early in my law career some very seasoned lawyer tried to explain to me what the phrase &quot;attorney and counselor-at-law&quot; might mean in a better world.&nbsp;&nbsp; That the service provider ought to be a counselor as well as (or sometimes instead of) being an aggressor.<br>
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On 2/14/2025 11:50 AM, Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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&gt; On 2/14/2025 10:23 AM, Miriam Richter, Esq. via E-trademarks wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; one month to rebrand is unrealistic in the best situation and use of <br>
&gt;&gt; the term \u201cunlawful violation\u201d in a \u201csupportive\u201d C&amp;D is not conducive <br>
&gt;&gt; to warm and fuzzy feelings<br>
&gt; Hear, hear. The client asked for a &quot;nice&quot; cease and desist letter and <br>
&gt; this sounds anything but nice to me.<br>
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&gt; Pam<br>
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&gt; Pamela S. Chestek<br>
&gt; Chestek Legal<br>
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