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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">The Assignment specialist I spoke with today said that if the name has been changed, then they won\u2019t accept an assignment that is identified as an entity conversion. But maybe
I should just try it anyway. I can\u2019t think of anything else, since the LLC is defunct and there is no one who can sign a document in its name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of Tim Ackermann via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 4:45</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Tim Ackermann <tim@ackermannlaw.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Proving that a corp. converted from an LLC owns trademarks registered by the LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This is the way. The conversion should be enough by itself. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Tim Ackermann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The Ackermann Law Firm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">E: </span><a href="mailto:tim@ackermannlaw.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">tim@ackermannlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br>
P: 817.305.0690<br>
F: 214.453.0810<br>
W: </span><a href="http://ackermannlaw.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">ackermannlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br>
O: 1701 W. Northwest Hwy. Ste. 100<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Jessica,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">You can file entity conversion documents that don\u2019t name trademarks, listing the trademark properties the entity owns, then file the assignment.
I\u2019ve done it several times.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 19, 2025 4:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <</span><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jessica R. Friedman <</span><a href="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">jrfriedman@litproplaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Proving that a corp. converted from an LLC owns trademarks registered by the LLC</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">This follows my earlier email about a company that
<b>converted</b> from <b>XYZ LLC</b> to <b>XYZ ABC Corp</b>., and then assigned its trademarks to a new client of mine, who wants to record that assignment in the PTO.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">My problem is that XYZ ABC Corp, the putative assignor, is not listed as the registrant and I have
nothing to show how XYZ ABC Corp. became the owner of the trademarks other than a conversion document that doesn\u2019t even mention trademarks or any assignment of assets, let alone goodwill, since, apparently, when you do a statutory conversion, no such assignment
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