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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>You have to save the draft application immediately before you sign it and pay for it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>And then go into drafts and duplicate it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Then finalize the original app. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Reply-To: </b>"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 20, 2025 at 12:21\u202fPM<br><b>To: </b>"practitioners.advice. For trademark This is not for laypersons to seek legal" <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com>, Kevin Grierson <kgrierson@cm.law><br><b>Cc: </b>Carl Oppedahl <carl@oppedahl.com><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Duplicating applications in the new Trademark Center<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p>I was under the impression that this does not work for an application that has already been filed.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2/20/2025 10:42 AM, Paul Supnik via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Why can't you just do the following:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'> Take a recent application.<o:p></o:p></li></ol></div><div><ol start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Under Actions drop box, save as new draft.<o:p></o:p></li></ol></div><div><ol start=3 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Rename the draft to Template and use that as a starting point.<o:p></o:p></li></ol></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Paul D. Supnik<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=Signature><div><p><a href="https://supnik.com/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'><span style='color:blue'><img border=0 width=335 height=127 style='width:3.4895in;height:1.3229in' id=imageSelected0 src="cid:image001.png@01DB8396.01F46AD0" alt="Paul D. Supnik 9454 Wilshire Blvd, Ste 550 Beverly Hills, CA 90212"></span></span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>This message, including any attachments, may include privileged or confidential material. Any distribution or use of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=0 width="100%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> E-trademarks <a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> on behalf of Annette Heller via E-trademarks <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 20, 2025 9:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> Kevin Grierson <a href="mailto:kgrierson@cm.law"><kgrierson@cm.law></a>; For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br><b>Cc:</b> Annette Heller <a href="mailto:tmattorneyheller@aol.com"><tmattorneyheller@aol.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Duplicating applications in the new Trademark Center <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I print the draft to pdf and save it in the file . Can\u2019t reuse it for another application like we did under the prior system <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Annette <br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661">Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=xyahoo-quoted-begin>On Thursday, February 20, 2025, 10:55 AM, Kevin Grierson <a href="mailto:kgrierson@cm.law"><kgrierson@cm.law></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id="x_yiv0455768850"><div><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>Hi Annette, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>Do you mean that you save it in some form that you can use for a filing, or that you print it out and save it? I\u2019m not aware of any way to download an application in the new TM Center.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>Kevin<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><b>Kevin Grierson</b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p>|<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td><td nowrap style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p>Partner<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><a href="https://www.cm.law/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'><span style='color:blue'><img border=0 width=130 height=50 style='width:1.3541in;height:.5208in' id="x_yiv0455768850Picture_x0020_393809416" src="cid:image002.png@01DB8396.01F46AD0"></span></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><img border=0 width=16 height=16 style='width:.1666in;height:.1666in' id="x_yiv0455768850Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image003.png@01DB8396.01F46AD0" alt="Mobile:"><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p> 757-726-7799<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><img border=0 width=16 height=16 style='width:.1666in;height:.1666in' id="x_yiv0455768850Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image004.png@01DB8396.01F46AD0" alt="Fax:"><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p> 866-521-5663<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><img border=0 width=16 height=16 style='width:.1666in;height:.1666in' id="x_yiv0455768850Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image005.png@01DB8396.01F46AD0" alt="Email:"><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p> <a href="mailto:kgrierson@cm.law">kgrierson@cm.law</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><b><i><a href="https://www.cm.law/cm-law-formerly-culhane-meadows-launches-second-decade-with-fresh-name-and-modern-brand/">Please note: Culhane Meadows is now CM Law</a></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div></div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div id="x_yiv0455768850yqt97777"><div><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal><b>From:</b> E-trademarks <a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Annette Heller via E-trademarks<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 19, 2025 7:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>; <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Annette Heller <a href="mailto:tmattorneyheller@aol.com"><tmattorneyheller@aol.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Duplicating applications in the new Trademark Center<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>EXTERNAL EMAIL<o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><div><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>I always save the draft copy to my client's file on my computer before moving on to pay for the application.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>Annette P. Heller<br>Trademark/Copyright Attorney<br>TM Law & Associates<br>400 Chesterfield Center Ste 400<br>Chesterfield [St Louis] MO 63017<br><br><a href="http://www.trademarkatty.com/">www.TrademarkAtty.com</a><br><br>314-469-2610 Fax 314-469-4850<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>In a message dated 2/19/2025 6:07:38 PM Central Standard Time, <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a> writes: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id="x_yiv0455768850"><div><div><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>I always print a hard copy before I send it, just in case...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div id="x_yiv0455768850yqt18615"><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:34<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>\u202f</span>AM Keller, Scott via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal>Is there a way to duplicate an application in the USPTO Trademark Center after it has been filed? The only links I see are to TSDR and all of \u201cdrafts\u201d in \u201cMy Drafts\u201d are blank even though each application I prepare gets \u201csaved\u201d to drafts after each step. Then they are gone after they are filed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td width=46 style='width:34.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal><img border=0 width=40 height=59 style='width:.4166in;height:.6145in' id="x_yiv0455768850m_-561952241151725895_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image006.jpg@01DB8396.01F46AD0"><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=xyiv0455768850msonormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>R. 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