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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you, Sam! Shabnam is not the only one facing this issue!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Take care,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Mark S. Kaufman</span><span lang="NL" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Kaufman & Kahn, LLP</span><span lang="NL" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Email: </span><a href="mailto:kaufman@kaufmankahn.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#0563c1">kaufman@kaufmankahn.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.kaufmankahn.com/"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#0563c1">www.kaufmankahn.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">10 Grand Central</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">155 East 44<sup>th</sup> Street, 19<sup>th</sup> Floor</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">New York, NY 10017</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Mobile: +1 (917) 453-7807</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Tel.: (212) 293-5556, x 2</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><img border="0" width="371" height="51" style="width:3.8645in;height:.5312in" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01DB86B0.14333D30"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This email is intended only for the party to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination or copying of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, kindly notify us immediately, return the email to us, and destroy any electronic or other copies of the email (including any notification to us in your \u201cSent\u201d folder). Thank you in advance for your cooperation and courtesy.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sam Castree via E-trademarks<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 24, 2025 11:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Sam Castree <<a href="mailto:sam@castreelaw.com">sam@castreelaw.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Case citation?</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Dear Shabnam,</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">This question has come up before, and </span></span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I<span class="gmaildefault">'ve gathered several of these in a Word doc for when I need them. Admittedly, a bunch of these are non-prededential, but it should be enough to get you started.</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">(\u201c. . . although the Board had before it a few registrations for both restaurant services and beer, . . . the small number of such registrations suggests that it is quite uncommon for restaurants and beer to share the same trademark.\u201d)</span></p><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">--<i>In re Coors Brewing Co.,</i> 68 U.S.P.Q.2d 1059, 1063 (Fed. Cir. 2003)</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">\u201cWe have given no weight to those third-party registrations for marks which are in the nature of house marks, designer marks and merchandising marks, as it is well-recognized that such marks may be used for a wide variety of items, and therefore they are of little value in showing that the goods for which they are registered are all related.\u201d</span></p><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">--<i>In re Gebhard</i>, Serial No. 78950320 (T.T.A.B. March 26, 2009) (non-precedential)</span></p><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">\u201cThird-party registrations in the nature of house marks used for a wide variety of items are of little value by themselves to show that the various goods for which they are registered are all related. Similarly, here where the website evidence shows house marks used on a wide variety of goods, it is not so probative of this factor.\u201d</span></p><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">--</span></span><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In re Marko Schuhfabrik GmbH</span></i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">, Serial No. 79040612 (T.T.A.B. December 23, 2009) (non-precedential).</span></p><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">\u201c[M]any of the third-party registrations are owned by supermarkets that sell their own brand of virtually every product. In that marketing milieu, consumers do not perceive the supermarket house brand, appearing on a wide variety of products, as necessarily signaling that all such branded products are commercially related products. Otherwise, giving such third-party registrations probative value would in effect create a \u201cper se\u201d rule that all products and services available in a modern supermarket are related. In this regard, the fact that applicant has applied to register a wide variety of products does not change the perception of consumers or give the third-party registrations any added probative value.\u201d</span></p><p class="gmail-msonospacing" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> --<i>In re Land O Sky, LLC</i>, No. 76633815, 2010 WL 183227, at *6 (T.T.A.B. Jan. 4, 2010) (nonprecedential).</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#222222">Cheers,</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#222222"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#222222"> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#222222"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#ff6600">Sam Castree, III</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#222222"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#222222"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#ff6600">Sam Castree Law, LLC</span></i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:#222222"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#ff6600">3421 W. Elm St.</span></i><span style="color:#222222"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#ff6600">McHenry, IL 60050</span></i><span style="color:#222222"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#ff6600">(815) 344-6300</span></i><span style="color:#222222"></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 9:49<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM Shabnam Malek via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hello folks,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I am looking for a case citation that says something along the lines of "the mere fact that registrations cited by the EA include both applicant's and the cited goods/services does not mean those two things are necessarily related." Any help is greatly appreciated. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you!</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Shabnam</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Tw Cen MT",sans-serif;color:black">Shabnam Malek</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Raleway;color:#855e29">BRAND & BRANCH, PC</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#fefefe"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">1531 17th Ave.<br>San Francisco, CA 94122</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Raleway;color:#855e29">p:</span><span style="font-family:Raleway;color:#6c6c6c"> </span><a href="tel:%28510%29%20984-4285" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Raleway;color:#1155cc">(510) 984-4285</span></a><span style="font-family:Raleway;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Raleway;color:#855e29">e: </span><a href="mailto:shabnam@brandandbranch.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Raleway;color:#1155cc">shabnam@brandandbranch.com</span></a><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Raleway;color:#855e29">w:</span><span style="font-family:Raleway;color:#103cc0"> </span><a href="http://www.brandandbranch.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Raleway;color:#1155cc">www.brandandbranch.com</span></a><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Raleway-Regular",serif;color:black">Have you heard about the </span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Raleway-Regular",serif;color:#855e29">International Cannabis Bar Association?</span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Raleway-Regular",serif;color:black"> </span></b><a href="http://www.canbar.org/" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-family:"Raleway-Regular",serif;color:#1155cc">Check us out</span></b></a><b><span style="font-family:"Raleway-Regular",serif;color:#386eff"> </span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Raleway-Regular",serif;color:black">and use my name MALEK for a 15% discount on membership and events.</span></b></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>E-trademarks mailing list<br><a href="mailto:E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br><a href="http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com</a></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>