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</style><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><b><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">PTO Alternative Filing<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><b><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Selections by Daniel Kegan *</span></b><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">[Recently I tried to file a trademark document, and the PTO Trademark Center online system hung after entering all the trademark data and before presenting the payment page. I tried another browser, and copied to PDF my entered data, hung again. The next evening I tried again, hung. So I concluded I needed to update and review the TEMP regulations for alternative filings when the PTO online system fails. When you have similar need, check the TMEP original, if available, you might need details I skipped.]<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">When you are unable to file electronically due to a system outage, Priority Mail might be available to submit paper in .docx format, with a fax credit card authorization, </span><a href="http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/apply/fi%20ling-documents-during-outage"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">www.uspto.gov/trademarks/apply/fi ling-documents-during-outage</span></a><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">.</span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Most paper USPS mail to USPTO should be addressed to:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Commissioner for Trademarks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">PO Box 1451<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Alexandria VA 22313-1451.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">TMEP 305.01.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">C</span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">heck the status page, </span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><www.uspto.gov/system-status></span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> before resorting to non-electronic filing methods and contact the Trademark Assistance Center for guidance. <</span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </span><a href="https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/apply/forms-submit-only-if-teas-online-forms-are-unavailable"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/apply/forms-submit-only-if-teas-online-forms-are-unavailable</span></a><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">>. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><b><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Fee Payment<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">When the PTO Online system is down you may fax Credit Card authorization (PTO 2038), <www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/PTO-2038.pdf> or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Fee Transmittal (PTO/SB/17), <www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/sb0017.pdf> to the PTO. Certain application fees must be paid on the same date as the filing of an application. Failure to pay these fees on the same date as the filing of an application will result in a surcharge for late payment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><b><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">PTO Assistance Center, Phone<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Trademark, 800-786,9199, Monday-Friday, exclusive of fed holidays, 8:30 am-8:00 pm ET.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">TTAB, 571-272-8400. 8:30am-5:00 pm ET.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Patent Application, 888-786-0101 8:30am-5:00 pm ET.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none">·<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><daniel@keganlaw.com><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 25, 2025, at 4:07\u202fPM, Ryan Bethell via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I suppose we could paper file, or else contact the examiner and have them chew out the paralegals in the revival division. If your docketing is hardcoded to the original Notice of allowance (and your internal record that the extension was filed), you should still be at least aware of the dates, but if you are relying on the extension approval, then it completely bricks your internal docketing. <br><br>I've notified a contact at USPTO policy and a few examiners of the issue, but no word yet on a fix. </div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 1:54\u202fPM Jamie Shelden <<a href="mailto:justtrademarks@gmail.com">justtrademarks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>Interesting Ryan. I had one come up last week. I received the Notice of Approval of Extension Request the same day that the next extension was due. Because we hadn\u2019t received the approval of extension, the deadline for the next extension didn\u2019t come up on our docket, so we missed it again \U0001f92c. <div><br></div><div>I had another read of the approval notice and it specifically states that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Applicant must continue to file extension requests every six months\u2026</i>But, if TEAS won\u2019t allow you file the extension request, what option do you have?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span id="cid:ii_1953eed2f4cdcaebf3d1"><Screenshot 2025-02-04 at 5.42.30\u202fPM.png></span></div><div><br id="m_-3630724430986725027lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 25, 2025, at 12:40\u202fPM, Ryan Bethell via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Word to the wise -- <br><br>I have several applications where revivals were filed for notices of allowance, where no extension has been yet granted, dating back to October of 2024. Something fishy is going on at the USPTO regarding the approval of extensions filed with a revival. This is quite frustrating, because we are already coming up on the next sixth-month deadline to file either a statement of use or extension for several applications, and I cannot file either through TEAS until the previous extension is granted.<br><br>If you have clients that are nearly ready to prove use, it may be better to hold off and file the extension and SOU together with the revival rather than filing the revival immediately and waiting on specimens. The exceedingly long processing times create issues with very tight (or non-existent) online filing windows.</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Warm Regards,<br><font face="arial, sans-serif">Ryan Bethell<br>Managing Partner</font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">The Ideas Law Firm PLLC</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">P: 833-863-5483<br>Linkedin: <span style="font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-bethell-70a04024" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-bethell-70a04024</a></span></font></div><div><font color="rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.901960784313726)" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://www.trademarkelite.com/" target="_blank">www.TrademarkElite.com</a></font><br></span><br><font size="1">This e-mail may contain information that is <b>privileged</b> or </font><font size="1"><b>confidential</b></font><font size="1">. If you received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete/destroy all copies of this correspondence. 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