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<div dir="auto">But if so, check the date of the registrations. I don't happen to recall when the policy shift occurred, but if there are registrations for IP that's owned by the registrant, I'd bet that they were granted in the good old days before the wind
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<div dir="auto">I recall having gotten such a registration from an application filed in 2005. I think the change took place by 2008.</div>
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<div dir="auto">-Gerry Elman </div>
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<div>From: Scott Landsbaum via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com> </div>
<div>Date: 2/25/25 4:36 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
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<div>Cc: Scott Landsbaum <scott@scottlandsbaum.com> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Licensing of Intellectual Property Rights? </div>
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<div>I think of "Licensing of intellectual property" as describing the service of being a licensing agent and licensing the intellectual property of others. You can look up any large consumer facing company - Disney or McDonalds - and see if they have any
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 1:27\u202fPM Montgomery, Alexander P. via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">Question for the brain trust:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">If your client uses its mark for X services, and also licenses its mark to others so that those others can provide X services (not a franchise), do you include in an application for the mark:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="m_-4882543044211100057MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span style="font-family:Symbol; color:rgb(31,78,121)"><span>·<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">X services; AND<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">(Class 45) Licensing of intellectual property<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">or only \u201cX services\u201d?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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