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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">I don\u2019t think the error affects the statutory advantages that affect enforceability\u2014they would still have the presumption of ownership, validity, etc. that you get with a registration on the Principal Register\u2014but
having a registration on the Principal Register wouldn\u2019t change the fact that the mark is inherently weak. The fact that you don\u2019t have an admission of descriptiveness doesn\u2019t mean that a court wouldn\u2019t note the obvious, error or no.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 16, 2025 11:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jessica R. Friedman <<a href="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com" target="_blank">jrfriedman@litproplaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Indisputably "merely descriptive" mark registered without disclaimer (and no 2(f) claim)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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the fact that COMPUTER SCIENCE clearly is \u201cmerely descriptive\u201d for books about computer science, and, the applicant did not claim secondary meaning. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(10,47,65)">There\u2019s no point asking how the PTO let that application proceed without the disclaimer in the first place. But would this registration actually be enforceable
without proof of secondary meaning? I guess I\u2019m asking whether the clear error in the registration would be a defense to an infringement claim, or even a refusal to register a similar mark, even if I\u2019m not asking the question in quite the right way.
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