<div dir="ltr"><div>Just wanted to point out that there's a relevant section of the TMEP which specifically states that translations are generally not required for foreign terms which appear in an English dictionary. Here ya go.</div><div><br></div><div><h1 class="gmail-annotate-ok gmail-page-title" style="font-size:1.6em;line-height:1.25;margin:8px 0px 5px;padding:0px 0px 3px;color:rgb(0,57,109);clear:both;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(158,11,0)">809.01(b)(i) Foreign Terms Appearing in English Dictionary</h1><p align="left" id="gmail-TMEP-ch-800-3d85e5506" class="gmail-annotate-ok" style="margin-bottom:1em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px">It is generally unnecessary to provide a translation of a foreign term if the term appears in an English dictionary (e.g., croissant, fiesta or flambé). However, if a term that appears in the English dictionary appears in a mark as part of a foreign idiomatic phrase or other unitary expression, a translation of the idiomatic phrase or unitary expression is required. The translation must not break the phrase into its individual word elements or translate only the individual words that do not appear in the English dictionary. Such a translation would serve no useful purpose because it would not convey the true commercial impression of the phrase.</p><div id="gmail-" class="gmail-Example" style="margin-left:5em;margin-right:5em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px"><p align="left" id="gmail-TMEP-ch-800-1d85e5511" class="gmail-annotate-ok" style="margin-bottom:1em"><i>Example:</i> If the mark included the phrase "la fiesta grande," an appropriate translation would be "the great celebration" or possibly "the great fiesta." It would be inappropriate to translate only the individual foreign elements "la" and "grande." 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<p class="MsoNormal">Here ya go, here\u2019s an attempt at a listing and categorization:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 17, 2025 2:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Laura Geyer <<a href="mailto:lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com" target="_blank">lgeyer@ndgallilaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Additional Processing Fee Question<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would I have to do the same thing with parachute (or veal, ballet, garage, cuisine, restaurant, silhouette) because it's French? English is the mother of all "borrowing" languages. Someone is being silly.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Wait a minute -- it seems beyond objectionable to have to pay to translate something that is really close to \u201cespresso\u201d. Espresso is firmly a loan word in English, like \u201ckudos\u201d
or \u201coctopus\u201d. In other words, espresso in English is \u201cespresso\u201d. It doesn\u2019t matter that it also is that in Italian. Espresso has entered the vocabulary of *<b>many</b>* countries -if you throw it into Google translate for a bunch of languages, the translation
of \u201cespresso\u201d is \u201cespresso\u201d or some other form of \u201cespresso\u201d. You could just as well say it means \u201cespresso\u201d in about 40 languages. You could run it all day and find that espresso is espresso or something very close to it.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Supnik via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 17, 2025 1:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Paul Supnik <<a href="mailto:paul@supnik.com" target="_blank">paul@supnik.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Additional Processing Fee Question</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I think that the Office needs to further update the software for responses to Office Actions. I suspect that they did not expect that some initial
Office Actions might be issued so soon after the new forms were changed to require these additional fees rather than the typical 8 to 9 delay we have been experiencing. My approach now is to simply respond and wait for a new Office Action again requesting
payment of fees, despite the fact that this might result in a Final Office Action.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kees, Nicholas via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 17, 2025 10:03 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Kees, Nicholas <<a href="mailto:nakees@gklaw.com" target="_blank">nakees@gklaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Additional Processing Fee Question</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3553578570939611074m6289940752962265703msoplaintext" style="text-indent:0.5in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">As to the insufficient information fee of $100 per class, does anyone have any experience with actually having to pay the fee on an application?
We filed an application for a mark something like ESPRESSO (but less generic) but did not include a translation for the mark. The Examiner issued an Office Action instructing us to pay the fee and provide a translation. We provided the translation but the
response to office action form does not include any way to pay the fee. When we spoke to the Examiner, he made it seem that the only thing needed was to change the application from TEAS Standard to TEAS Plus on the back end, and we would be able to pay through
the Response to Office Action form. But that does not appear to be true. When we spoke with the Examiner again, he admitted he hasn\u2019t seen the ROA form from our end in years, so he had no idea how we were supposed to pay the fee.
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<p class="m_3553578570939611074m6289940752962265703msoplaintext" style="text-indent:0.5in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">We contacted the TEAS Assistance Center. They thought our instructions to allow the Examiner to charge the fee to our deposit account would
be sufficient, but sent us to the Accounting Department to verify. In typical NMJ fashion, the Accounting Department said they don\u2019t deal with Office Action Responses. We contacted the TEAS support mailbox, which was unhelpful as well. Any suggestions would
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