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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Paul. As long as the product was shipped in commerce and the trademark was on the goods, the use was legitimate.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Supnik via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 23, 2025 2:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Paul Supnik <paul@supnik.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Use in Commerce for a service when underlying product was returned and refunded<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If the original transaction was a legitimate arms length transaction, it was use in commerce. I do not think that the return has anything to do with this issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> Frances Lippincott <<a href="mailto:lippincottip@gmail.com">lippincottip@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Use in Commerce for a service when underlying product was returned and refunded</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can an applicant use the date of first use in commerce for a service, where the service was performed but the underlying product was later returned and refunded?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For example, say applicant provides design services. Customer orders a custom light fixture. The light is delivered and paid for (date of first use in commerce), but then is later returned to the designer and the customer is refunded.<o:p></o:p></p>
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