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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I cant see how that <u>isnt</u> the practice of law. It feels like sovereign citizen logic.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Your service exists only within a legal framework. You are preparing and submitting legal documents, and if youre making office action responses youre definitely handling legal arguments or making legal
determinations. Therefore, youre practicing law. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Every filing service hides behind the same nonsensical flim-flam arguments.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">A pro se party can file their own documents; so<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">we are merely helping them prepare their documents; therefore<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">We arent providing legal services, only helping a pro-se exercise their own rights.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Always, always, ALWAYS, the help is advertised in the same way legal services are advertised: come to us for our expertise to get a better outcome. Then either the help actually provided is nonexistent
(merely a copy+paste job like <a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=98362031&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch">
this abhorrent application</a>); OR the help is actually legal services. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">No idea why the bar associations arent dealing with this nonsense.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Bob Reynolds</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Crane, Susan via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 4, 2025 12:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Crane, Susan <susan.crane@wyndham.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Law firm/not law firm?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Certainly sounds like the unauthorized practice of law to me. Has she actually filed a COR with the PTO?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0072CE">Susan L. Crane<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">Wyndham Hotels & Resorts, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:Susan.Crane@wyndham.com">Susan.Crane@wyndham.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 4, 2025 1:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jessica R. Friedman <<a href="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com">jrfriedman@litproplaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Law firm/not law firm?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">A new lawyer recently took over an application that we have been tracking. The services she offers through her named LLC include trademark search and filing, trademark
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">A new lawyer recently took over an application that we have been tracking. The services she offers through her named LLC include trademark search and filing, trademark renewal
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">But at the bottom, there is this disclaimer:
<b><i>[NAME OF LLC] does not operate as a law firm.</i></b><i> </i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">If she is doing everything that I listed (and more), how can she say that she does not operate as a law firm?
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