<div dir="ltr"><div>Could Creator file his own trademark application and when the senior registration is inevitably cited against it in an Office Action, produce the license showing the owner of the senior trademark is their licensee in order to overcome the refusal? </div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br><b style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><font color="#f1c232">The McArthur Law Firm<br></font></b>Stephen Charles McArthur<br><font color="#202124">8383 Wilshire Blvd., Ste. 800<br></font><font color="#202124">Beverly Hills, CA 90211<br></font>(424) 258-6815<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Raleway,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)"><br></span></div><div><a href="http://www.smcarthurlaw.com" target="_blank">www.smcarthurlaw.com</a><br><br><i>This email, including any attachments, may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient or if you received this message in error, please notify us and delete all copies. Sender reserves and asserts all rights to confidentiality, including all privileges and IP that may apply. Thank you. </i></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 1:06\u202fAM Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <p>What she said!</p>
    <p>Thank you Susan for posting.  Carl<br>
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    <div>On 6/11/2025 6:59 PM, Crane, Susan via
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      I think there is a risk the registration is void for fraud. The
      original applicant/licensee knew it had no rights but attested
      otherwise in its application. That would be the basis of the
      cancellation action filed by Creator or someone else down the
      line. 
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      <div><span>Since by contract and licensing law, the creator can
          claim the original first use date, true priority is not lost. </span></div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Susan L. Crane</span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Intellectual Property, Brands &amp;
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Wyndham Hotels &amp; Resorts, Inc.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span><span dir="ltr">22 Sylvan Way</span></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span><span dir="ltr">Parsippany, NJ
                07054</span></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>O <span dir="ltr">(973) 753-6455</span></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>M <span dir="ltr">(973) 879-3420</span></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Susan.Crane@wyndham.com" target="_blank">Susan.Crane@wyndham.com</a></p>
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          <blockquote type="cite">On Jun 11, 2025, at 7:59\u202fPM, Scott
            Landsbaum via E-trademarks
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              Isn&#39;t this a contract dispute and not a USPTO issue? Why
              would the creator want to cancel the registration and lose
              the priority vs other third parties? Regards, Scott Scott
              Landsbaum, Inc. 323-314-7881 / f 323-714-2454 8306
              Wilshire Blvd.\u200a,</div>
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              <div>Isn&#39;t this a contract dispute and not a USPTO issue? 
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                4:37\u202fPM Stephen McArthur via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
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                  <div>Creator enters into a contract with a third-party
                    Seller to manufacture and sell his product bearing a
                    Trademark. The contract clearly sets out that the
                    Trademark is exclusively licensed to Seller, but not
                    assigned to it. Creator never sold the product
                    himself, but just had some demo versions that he
                    showed off at conventions. </div>
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                  <div>Seller then registers the trademark at the USPTO
                    identifying itself as the owner. Years pass and the
                    trademark is now incontestable. Seller has been
                    making and selling the very successful Product
                    bearing the Trademark for years under the license,
                    and writing monthly checks to Creator. </div>
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                    Creator now decides he wants the trademark
                    registration in his name and for it to be assigned
                    to him. Despite the contract only licensing and not
                    assigning the trademark, Seller refuses to comply
                    with the assignment since 6 years have passed since
                    the trademark was registered in Seller&#39;s name
                    without Creator ever saying anything. </div>
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                  <div>On what basis, if any, could Creator file a
                    Cancellation for the incontestable trademark
                    registration? </div>
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                  <div>Could Creator file his own trademark application
                    and when the original registration is cited against
                    it in an Office Action, produce the license showing
                    the owner of the senior trademark is their licensee
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