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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Ownership of trademark registration question between a Creator and a Licensee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Could Creator file his own trademark application and when the senior registration is inevitably cited against it in an Office Action, produce the license showing
the owner of the senior trademark is their licensee in order to overcome the refusal?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could Creator file his own trademark application and when the senior registration is inevitably cited against it in an Office Action, produce the license showing the owner of the senior trademark is their licensee in order to overcome the
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 1:06<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>What she said!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thank you Susan for posting. Carl<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/11/2025 6:59 PM, Crane, Susan via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think there is a risk the registration is void for fraud. The original applicant/licensee knew it had no rights but attested otherwise in its application. That would be the basis of the cancellation action filed by Creator or someone
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since by contract and licensing law, the creator can claim the original first use date, true priority is not lost. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Isn't this a contract dispute and not a USPTO issue? Why would the creator want to cancel the registration and lose the priority vs other third parties? Regards, Scott Scott Landsbaum, Inc. 323-314-7881 / f 323-714-2454 8306 Wilshire Blvd.<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u200a</span>,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Isn't this a contract dispute and not a USPTO issue? Why would the creator want to cancel the registration and lose the priority vs other third parties?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Creator enters into a contract with a third-party Seller to manufacture and sell his product bearing a Trademark. The contract clearly sets out that the Trademark is exclusively licensed to Seller, but not assigned to it. Creator never
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<p class="MsoNormal">Seller then registers the trademark at the USPTO identifying itself as the owner. Years pass and the trademark is now incontestable. Seller has been making and selling the very successful Product bearing the Trademark for years under the
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Creator now decides he wants the trademark registration in his name and for it to be assigned to him. Despite the contract only licensing and not assigning the trademark, Seller refuses to comply with the assignment since 6 years have passed since the trademark
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<p class="MsoNormal">On what basis, if any, could Creator file a Cancellation for the incontestable trademark registration? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could Creator file his own trademark application and when the original registration is cited against it in an Office Action, produce the license showing the owner of the senior trademark is their licensee in order to get around the refusal? <o:p></o:p></p>
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Thanks in advance for any guidance!<o:p></o:p></p>
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