<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Aptos;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle22
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;
font-weight:normal;
font-style:normal;
text-decoration:none none;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think that is a risk. Haven\u2019t done research on the ability to cure/purge fraud.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0072CE">Susan L. Crane<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">Group Vice President, Legal<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">Intellectual Property, Brands & Marketing<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">Wyndham Hotels & Resorts, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">22 Sylvan Way<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">Parsippany, NJ 07054<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">O</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A"> (973) 753-6455<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">M</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A"> (973) 879-3420<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:Susan.Crane@wyndham.com"><span style="color:#467886">Susan.Crane@wyndham.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Dale Quisenberry <dale@quisenberrylaw.com>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 12, 2025 12:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Crane, Susan <susan.crane@wyndham.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Ownership of trademark registration question between a Creator and a Licensee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">This is interesting. So, Susan, are you saying, because of the fraud, the existing registration is invalid and the fraud cannot be purged? So while the rightful
owner is entitled to the priority date, they must file a new application, which<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%;border-radius:4px">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="padding:12.0pt 0in 12.0pt 0in">
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%;background:#D0D8DC;border:none;border-top:solid #90A4AE 3.0pt">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="border:none;padding:0in 7.5pt 3.75pt 4.5pt">
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="padding:3.0pt 6.0pt 3.0pt 6.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">This Message Is From an External Sender
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="padding:3.0pt 6.0pt 3.0pt 6.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="right">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="padding:3.0pt 0in 3.0pt 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://us-phishalarm-ewt.proofpoint.com/EWT/v1/Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!kEaJC7ENw0EbQMs3mjMnn9243G33UVAnfysntVq5NcgYxAlv8CZHXyO-SdwopfrZZxtRCG1_g6eF1kJ-M2hv5ANF5x1XaxW4D-9xopcVIX5BnNA7Rhgk9AcsnYCh73d5wQrCioaiczFGKw$" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;border:solid #666666 1.0pt;padding:6.0pt;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none"> Report Suspicious </span></strong></a> \u200c
<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This is interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">So, Susan, are you saying, because of the fraud, the existing registration is invalid and the fraud cannot be purged?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">So while the rightful owner is entitled to the priority date, they must file a new application, which will only get the benefit of that new filing date?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">So any intervening applications could create problems?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dale<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">C. Dale Quisenberry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Quisenberry Law PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">13910 Champion Forest Drive, Suite 203<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Houston, Texas 77069<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(832) 680.5000 (office)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(832) 680.1000 (mobile)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(832) 680.5555 (facsimile)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.quisenberrylaw.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!kv9YM_6vz98gb398lTM5Lb04-tS6NzaiYluCKuhkJEDBHZ_ZyCLPDWM-zHN0-RIm7YyFZnyB4sMW1oizRxE-Tw$"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.quisenberrylaw.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#685C53">This email may contain information that is confidential and subject to the attorney-client privilege, work product doctrine and other applicable privileges.
This email is intended to be received only by those to whom it is specifically addressed. Any receipt of this email by others is not intended to and shall not waive any applicable privilege. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and
immediately notify the sender by separate email. Thank you.</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container">
<div>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> on behalf of Crane, Susan via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 12 June 2025 at 11:06</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">am<br>
<b>To: </b>For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Crane, Susan <<a href="mailto:susan.crane@wyndham.com">susan.crane@wyndham.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Ownership of trademark registration question between a Creator and a Licensee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">No, that will not work. The examiner cannot make those kinds of decisions. You would need to cancel the prior registration to overcome the citation.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0072CE">Susan L. Crane</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">Group Vice President, Legal</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">Intellectual Property, Brands & Marketing</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">Wyndham Hotels & Resorts, Inc.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">22 Sylvan Way</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">Parsippany, NJ 07054</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">O</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A"> (973) 753-6455</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A">M</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A"> (973) 879-3420</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:Susan.Crane@wyndham.com"><span style="color:#467886">Susan.Crane@wyndham.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen McArthur via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 12, 2025 11:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Stephen McArthur <<a href="mailto:stephen@smcarthurlaw.com">stephen@smcarthurlaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Ownership of trademark registration question between a Creator and a Licensee</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Could Creator file his own trademark application and when the senior registration is inevitably cited against it in an Office Action, produce the license showing the owner of the senior trademark
is their licensee in order to overcome the refusal?</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%;border-radius:4px">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="padding:12.0pt 0in 12.0pt 0in">
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%;background:#D0D8DC;border:none;border-top:solid #90A4AE 3.0pt">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="border:none;padding:0in 7.5pt 3.75pt 4.5pt">
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="padding:3.0pt 6.0pt 3.0pt 6.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">This Message Is From an External Sender
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="padding:3.0pt 6.0pt 3.0pt 6.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="right">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="padding:3.0pt 0in 3.0pt 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <a href="https://us-phishalarm-ewt.proofpoint.com/EWT/v1/Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!ksaLCl9BAwHRjM9cMFnIlC4YYjOM9RDZRVvxE40hnARvno1PJC5Xlsoa7UF2BsQvy4dl_VEa4EbY5EHxucS-DCfaoFwGqpDfoxcEtbkMHAwNz97mQoFkbyk4p5T80w$" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;border:solid #666666 1.0pt;padding:6.0pt;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none"> Report Suspicious </span></strong></a> \u200c
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Could Creator file his own trademark application and when the senior registration is inevitably cited against it in an Office Action, produce the license showing the owner of the senior trademark is their
licensee in order to overcome the refusal? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
<b><span style="color:#F1C232">The McArthur Law Firm<br>
</span></b>Stephen Charles McArthur<br>
<span style="color:#202124">8383 Wilshire Blvd., Ste. 800<br>
Beverly Hills, CA 90211<br>
</span>(424) 258-6815<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.smcarthurlaw.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!mo_1dUNWTFWykHmwqq6PwF6kZUOY9Unf4HyJ0eoE26M1CqIelm1lkWRuo86GQ3G264Twa60soQygHHEu85ROSolPpJ2Fck8$" target="_blank">www.smcarthurlaw.com</a><br>
<br>
<i>This email, including any attachments, may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited
and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient or if you received this message in error, please notify us and delete all copies. Sender reserves and asserts all rights to confidentiality, including all privileges and IP that may apply. Thank you.
</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 1:06</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">AM Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p>What she said!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thank you Susan for posting. Carl<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 6/11/2025 6:59 PM, Crane, Susan via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think there is a risk the registration is void for fraud. The original applicant/licensee knew it had no rights but attested otherwise in its application. That would be the basis of the cancellation action
filed by Creator or someone else down the line. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Since by contract and licensing law, the creator can claim the original first use date, true priority is not lost. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Susan L. Crane<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Group Vice President, Legal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Intellectual Property, Brands & Marketing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Wyndham Hotels & Resorts, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">22 Sylvan Way<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Parsippany, NJ 07054<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">O (973) 753-6455<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">M (973) 879-3420<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="mailto:Susan.Crane@wyndham.com" target="_blank">Susan.Crane@wyndham.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Jun 11, 2025, at 7:59</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">PM, Scott Landsbaum via E-trademarks
<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">\ufeff</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Isn't this a contract dispute and not a USPTO issue? Why would the creator want to cancel the registration and lose the priority vs other third parties? Regards, Scott Scott Landsbaum, Inc. 323-314-7881 /
f 323-714-2454 8306 Wilshire Blvd.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u200a</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div id="m_-5713551611939166951pfptBanneron79tkc">
<div id="m_-5713551611939166951pfptBanneron79tkc">
<div id="m_-5713551611939166951pfptBanneron79tkc">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:12.0pt">This Message Is From an External Sender
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div id="m_-5713551611939166951pfptBanneron79tkc">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:12.0pt">Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="m_-5713551611939166951pfptBanneron79tkc">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"><a href="https://us-phishalarm-ewt.proofpoint.com/EWT/v1/Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!ksaLCl6uwGlx7618dlIpvulAf52eIi_MFH-I4lX_lTdviUInzISWgFUu5xdh4XEdpMnj5VBi3nDgqOfSFkYGXPi-PDpPB7timnSH6qR-n0I5KRXghnBBj5Llk72k7w$" target="_blank">Report Suspicious
</a></span></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Isn't this a contract dispute and not a USPTO issue? Why would the creator want to cancel the registration and lose the priority vs other third parties?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Scott Landsbaum, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="tel:323-314-7881" target="_blank">323-314-7881</a> / f 323-714-2454 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">8306 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 420, Beverly Hills, CA 90211<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.scottlandsbaum.com/__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!ggZz-rI1mNeOFUHlCjE9GiTalmgOj64tvbEpWAxCJe3Co9J7mshEPlw0S1cdt6Jg01SekvIIegF29aC8BnJd5Sad221DIhM$" target="_blank">www.scottlandsbaum.com</a> / <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/in/scottlandsbaum/__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!ggZz-rI1mNeOFUHlCjE9GiTalmgOj64tvbEpWAxCJe3Co9J7mshEPlw0S1cdt6Jg01SekvIIegF29aC8BnJd5Sad25Cf8cc$" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/scottlandsbaum/</a><br>
<br>
NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, forward,
print, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return email or by telephone at <a href="tel:%28323%29%20314-7881" target="_blank">(323) 314-7881</a>.<br>
<br>
IRS CIRCULAR 230 DISCLOSURE: Any discussion of tax matters contained in this or any email (including any attachments) or in any oral or other written communication is not intended to be used and cannot be used for the purpose of avoiding U.S. tax related penalties
or in connection with the promotion, marketing or recommendation of any of the matters addressed in the communication.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 4:37</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">PM Stephen McArthur via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I've got a hypothetical here that I'd love some feedback on. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Creator enters into a contract with a third-party Seller to manufacture and sell his product bearing a Trademark. The contract clearly sets out that the Trademark is exclusively licensed to Seller, but not
assigned to it. Creator never sold the product himself, but just had some demo versions that he showed off at conventions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Seller then registers the trademark at the USPTO identifying itself as the owner. Years pass and the trademark is now incontestable. Seller has been making and selling the very successful Product bearing the
Trademark for years under the license, and writing monthly checks to Creator. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
Creator now decides he wants the trademark registration in his name and for it to be assigned to him. Despite the contract only licensing and not assigning the trademark, Seller refuses to comply with the assignment since 6 years have passed since the trademark
was registered in Seller's name without Creator ever saying anything. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On what basis, if any, could Creator file a Cancellation for the incontestable trademark registration? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Could Creator file his own trademark application and when the original registration is cited against it in an Office Action, produce the license showing the owner of the senior trademark is their licensee
in order to get around the refusal? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
Thanks in advance for any guidance!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
<b>The McArthur Law Firm<br>
</b>Stephen Charles McArthur<br>
8383 Wilshire Blvd., Ste. 800<br>
Beverly Hills, CA 90211<br>
(424) 258-6815<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.smcarthurlaw.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!ggZz-rI1mNeOFUHlCjE9GiTalmgOj64tvbEpWAxCJe3Co9J7mshEPlw0S1cdt6Jg01SekvIIegF29aC8BnJd5Sad_nDpW7c$" target="_blank">www.smcarthurlaw.com</a><br>
<br>
<i>This email, including any attachments, may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited
and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient or if you received this message in error, please notify us and delete all copies. Sender reserves and asserts all rights to confidentiality, including all privileges and IP that may apply. Thank you.
</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">-- <br>
E-trademarks mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!ggZz-rI1mNeOFUHlCjE9GiTalmgOj64tvbEpWAxCJe3Co9J7mshEPlw0S1cdt6Jg01SekvIIegF29aC8BnJd5SadbtUXPDU$" target="_blank">http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">-- <br>
E-trademarks mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!ggZz-rI1mNeOFUHlCjE9GiTalmgOj64tvbEpWAxCJe3Co9J7mshEPlw0S1cdt6Jg01SekvIIegF29aC8BnJd5SadbtUXPDU$" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!ggZz-rI1mNeOFUHlCjE9GiTalmgOj64tvbEpWAxCJe3Co9J7mshEPlw0S1cdt6Jg01SekvIIegF29aC8BnJd5SadbtUXPDU$</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This email message (including all attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by
reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Unless otherwise indicated in the body of this email, nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature and this transmission cannot be used to form, document, or authenticate
a contract. Wyndham Hotels and Resorts and/or its affiliates may monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications in the United States, including the content of emails and attachments, for security, legal compliance, training, quality assurance and other
purposes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">-- <br>
E-trademarks mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!mo_1dUNWTFWykHmwqq6PwF6kZUOY9Unf4HyJ0eoE26M1CqIelm1lkWRuo86GQ3G264Twa60soQygHHEu85ROSolPLG4lAvU$" target="_blank">http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This email message (including all attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by
reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Unless otherwise indicated in the body of this email, nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature and this transmission cannot be used to form, document, or authenticate
a contract. Wyndham Hotels and Resorts and/or its affiliates may monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications in the United States, including the content of emails and attachments, for security, legal compliance, training, quality assurance and other
purposes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
This email message (including all attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original
message. Unless otherwise indicated in the body of this email, nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature and this transmission cannot be used to form, document, or authenticate a contract. Wyndham Hotels and Resorts and/or
its affiliates may monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications in the United States, including the content of emails and attachments, for security, legal compliance, training, quality assurance and other purposes.
</body>
</html>