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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Pam, even though each package is a single \u201crose\u201d and the client does not sell packages of multiple items of lingerie? I do not think a single rose constitutes a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pam, even though each package is a single \u201crose\u201d and the client does not sell packages of multiple items of lingerie? I do not think a single rose constitutes a bouquet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I often disagree with Ed, but it usually goes the other way around - he supports the decision of the Office and I do not.<br>
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In this case I think this is a perfectly reasonable descriptiveness refusal. I don't suppose your objection is that the refusal is only ascertainable by looking at the specimen - I expect that is why an SOU goes back to the examining attorney, for a second
look. It would be very easy to game the system on descriptiveness if you could file an application and never disclose how the mark is used in context.<br>
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I also think that the fact that the item is packaged to appear as a rose on a stem is a characteristic or feature of the product and therefore the refusal is appropriate. The panties are packaged that way that represents roses and the intention is that one
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/17/2025 4:54 PM, Edward Timberlake via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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thought, or perception may be required to deduce what PANTYROSE means in this context (not to mention a BOUQUET of them).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 3:34<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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BOUQUET does not describe lingerie. But the examiner has rejected the application, saying, \u201cThese words merely describe applicant\u2019s lingerie in that they are underpants for women packaged decoratively to resemble a medley of roses, but is [sic] instead a medley
of lingerie.[?] Moreover, applicant\u2019s specimen clearly shows that its lingerie is packaged to resemble a bouquet of roses.\u201d
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#163E64">A mark is merely descriptive if it describes an ingredient, quality, characteristic, function, feature, purpose or use of an applicant\u2019s
<b><i>goods or services </i></b>(and the examiner actually cites this rule).<b><i>
</i></b>Is there some rule that I have just never heard of that says that a mark is descriptive if it describes a product\u2019s creative
<b><i>packaging</i></b>? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366">Jessica R. Friedman</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366">Attorney at Law</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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