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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks Carl.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My concern with that approach is, to use your acronym TYFNIL, the true facts come to light, the registration is invalidated, the client loses the benefit
of the filing date, the client is left with common law rights only, and the competitor / opposing party in the litigation, who most likely has at least a pending application on file, will step in front of the client and lock the client into its area of common
law rights (and zone of natural expansion), and the competitor will have trademark rights throughout the remainder of the US.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Carl Oppedahl <carl@oppedahl.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 20 June 2025 at 9:46</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">am<br>
<b>To: </b>For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Assignment of ITU application -- exception<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>At the risk of oversimplifying and maybe not fairly characterizing your question ...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>You seem to be wondering if sometimes the filer (say XYZ Inc) might not really have much to convey in an assignment to the successor (XYZ LLC). And if there is not much to convey (perhaps very close to nothing) then can we be sure that the requirements
of 15 USC 1060(a)(1) are satisfied?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Over the years I have handled the occasional case where the filer signs an assignment that assigns stuff over to the successor ... and it is basically a quitclaim deed. The filer is not representing and warranting the amount of goodwill being conveyed,
and is not representing and warranting the amount of stuff that constitutes the "business of the applicant, or portion thereof, to which the mark pertains". But whatever there is, it is being conveyed. A quitclaim.
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<p>And I have figured this ought to be enough to satisfy 15 USC 1060(a)(1). The exception I suppose being some extreme fact pattern where the filer has very actively told the world it is not doing anything at all, or has previously engaged in some conduct
or another that is entirely inconsistent with any nonzero amount of goodwill or business or trademark rights having ever existed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 6/20/2025 8:25 AM, Dale Quisenberry via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Listmates,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Client filed ITU application in name of XYZ, Inc. (a foreign corporation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Mark has not been used yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Client has now formed XYZ, LLC (a US based LLC).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Client wants to know if it can assign the ITU application from the Inc. to the LLC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The starting point is no, but I\u2019m exploring the exception in 15 USC 1060(a)(1):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="num"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">(a)</span></b></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a name="a_1"></a><span class="num"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">(1)</span></b></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">A registered mark or a mark for which an application to register has been filed shall be assignable with the good will of the business in which the
mark is used, or with that part of the good will of the business connected with the use of and symbolized by the mark. Notwithstanding the preceding sentence, no application to register a mark under <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1051#b">section
1051(b) of this title</a> shall be assignable prior to the filing of an amendment under <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1051#c">section 1051(c) of this title</a> to bring the application into conformity with <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1051#a">section
1051(a) of this title</a> or the filing of the verified statement of use under <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1051#d">section 1051(d) of this title</a>, except for an assignment to a successor to the business of the applicant, or portion
thereof, to which the mark pertains, if that business is ongoing and existing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So, at the moment, the LLC does not appear to be a \u201csuccessor to the business of the [Inc.], or a portion thereof, to which the mark, if that business
is ongoing and existing.\u201d Inc. has not started a business that uses the mark yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So I\u2019m wondering which entity should use the mark first.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I believe the LLC is the entity that will be operating the business that uses the mark.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So one option is to put a license agreement in place between the Inc. and the LLC so that the use by the LLC is for the benefit of the Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Does that open up any resulting registration to attack that the Inc. did not have bona fide intent to use?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">If so is the only way to navigate this to have the Inc. use the mark, then file the statement of use, then assign the mark and goodwill to the LLC?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Has anyone been down this road before?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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