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<p>Seems to me that something needs to be done to help the (Acting)
Commissioner for Trademarks get a clue.</p>
<p>I wonder if some listserv member can volunteer to draft up a
letter and then we can collect signatures and send it to the
Acting Commissioner.</p>
<p>Bullet points might include:</p>
<ul>
<li>yes we understand your good intentions in trying to slow down
the bad actors who try to hijack trademark files at the USPTO</li>
<li>what you are doing now is just plain wrong</li>
<ul>
<li>it wrongly treats the former practitioner (who by your own
policy is presumed to no longer be the attorney) as having
veto power over changes to a file</li>
<li>it fails to recognize that sometimes the very reason why the
applicant or registrant is making a change is due to some
difficult situation relating to the former practitioner</li>
<li>your own policy that presumes that the practitioner is no
longer in charge is often wrong, but there are instances where
the practitioner is in fact no longer in charge, in which case
there is just no question that the former practitioner ought
not to be given veto power over changes</li>
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<li>if this hamfisted grant of veto power to the wrong party were
the sort of thing that only every now and then makes trouble for
the filing community, and if the trouble were only minor
trouble, that would be one thing. But many times the present
USPTO practice actively harms an applicant or registrant whose
need to make a change to a file is urgent or pressing.</li>
<li>You need to pull the plug on what you have just done with this
hamfisted grant of veto power to the wrong party</li>
<li>We invite you to get in touch with us and share with us some
of the internal workings of your systems, and maybe we could
help you come up with a good way to serve your well-intentioned
goal given how your systems are set up.<br>
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</ul>
<p>Of course one would have to find polite ways to say this stuff.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/20/2025 7:23 AM, Alan Taboada via
E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>If the attorney(s) of record being
replaced no longer represent the client (which might be in
fact or per USPTO policy of treating representation as being
ended), how do they have any authority (or in some cases
even knowledge) to approve or disprove the change in power
of attorney request?</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rosie Yang via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 19, 2025 6:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Rosie Yang <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rosieyang1@gmail.com"><rosieyang1@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] New security measures
in TEAS</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Exactly. This change fails to take
into consideration the fact that requiring the approval
of prior counsel affects the ability to meet deadlines
if the change in counsel is happening close in time to a
deadline (not that uncommon). And, just in general, if
the reason for the change in representation is because
the relationship with the former attorney has become
strained in some way, or if the former attorney cannot
grant approval for some reason, an applicant should not
be blocked from moving their application forward just
because the prior attorney does not grant approval for
whatever reason. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Under the system we've all been using
up until now, the prior attorney receives notice of the
change once it goes through, which gives opportunity to
fix unauthorized changes. The new requirement appears
to increase rather than decrease risks to applicants.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 6:01<span>\u202f</span>PM
Luke Adam via E-trademarks <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I fear this problematic
change by the USPTO is the cause for a sticky
situation we find ourselves in for a client. A
CAR was filed and we are waiting to have TSDR
and the related systems update (since Monday).
But a Petition to the Director is needed soon,
and cannot be filed because it contains the
previous attorney information and it cannot be
updated. An odd situation. </span></p>
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E-trademarks <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true"
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on behalf of Gerry J. Elman via E-trademarks
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 19, 2025 2:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is
not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Gerry J. Elman <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gerry@elman.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] New security
measures in TEAS</span> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Looks like
the USPTO is seeking to stem the tide of bogus
changes of representation by adding a new
layer of approval to document </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">such
changes.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">But
wouldn't it have been better practice to
announce the change to the practitioner
community when the change was implemented?
And to have consulted with the Office's
Advisory Board to facilitate smoother
transition?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">-Gerry
Elman </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">From: Dale
Quisenberry via E-trademarks <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Date:
6/19/25 3:05 PM (GMT-06:00) </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">To: "For
trademark practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice." <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Subject:
Re: [E-trademarks] New security measures in
TEAS
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Agreed!</span><span
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 19 June 2025
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lang="EN-GB">pm<br>
<b>To: </b>For trademark
practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice.
<<a
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks]
New security measures in TEAS</span><span
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">For any PTO
staffers, this is, in my opinion,
yet another recent change creating
inefficiency, undue cost,
inefficiency and waste. If the
client has signed the power of
attorney, legally that is all that
should be required. The solution is
more onerous to whatever problem you
are trying to fix.</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Please, change
it back!</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">On Thu, Jun 19,
2025 at 3:10</span><span
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lang="EN-GB">PM Rosie Yang via
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">We tried to
file a CAR form yesterday, and
TEAS was insisting that it had
to go to the prior attorney for
approval, with the explanation
suggesting that the prior
attorney might even need to
sponsor/associate with us in
some way for us to file it. The
explanation was as follows:</span></p>
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<p><i><span lang="EN-GB">You will
need access to the
correspondence email address
or one of the courtesy email
addresses you entered
in your application to
receive the authorization
link. Contact your email
provider if you need to
reset your email address
password.</span></i><span
lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
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<p><i><span lang="EN-GB">If there
is an attorney representing
the trademark owner, use the
sponsorship tool to connect
with them. If you're an
attorney, you can request
association. Attorney
support staff can request
sponsorship.</span></i><span
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You can save your progress
by using the "Save form"
link below. You can send the
saved form to someone
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authorization to submit.</span></i><span
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">We sent it
to both the teas@ email
account and the Trademark
Assistance Center, but have
not yet received any response
on what to do.</span></p>
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first time. TEAS sent
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appointed attorney for
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Katherine
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<b>Sent:</b>
Thursday, June 19,
2025 1:40 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b>
[E-trademarks] New
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<p><span>Has anyone else
been required to seek
authorization by the
applicant in order to
file a new POA? When
there\u2019s another
appointed firm, I\u2019ve
always been able to
upload a signed POA
and make the change
without further
authorization.
Yesterday, however, I
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the applicant for
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though they\u2019d already
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