<div dir="ltr">Probably right on both counts Carl.   Have a good weekend, all!</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 4:16\u202fPM Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <p>I bet that the June 25 session will be designed solely as a
      one-way communications event.  Information flowing from some
      Trademark Office people and toward us, the paying customers.  I
      bet that nobody who is meaningfully a decisionmaker about this
      ill-cast new policy will be (a) attending the event or (b) in a
      position to actively listen to the likes of us.<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 6/20/2025 1:22 PM, Alex Butterman
      via E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Or could we get a faster response by
          attending the below session and speaking out or sending notes
          to the moderator during it? 
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>USPTO
                                                      Hour: Combating
                                                      trademark fraud
                                                      and threats
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Join us on <b>Wednesday, June 25, from noon to 1
                                                          p.m. ET</b> for
                                                          our next <a href="https://links-1.govdelivery.com/CL0/https:%2F%2Fwww.uspto.gov%2Fabout-us%2Fevents%2Fuspto-hour-trademark-pendency-preventing-fraudulent-filings%3Futm_campaign=subscriptioncenter%26utm_content=%26utm_medium=email%26utm_name=%26utm_source=govdelivery%26utm_term=/1/010001978d89f9b7-3570d53f-b5d9-492c-a405-61c32e15fc21-000000/7eFjUjHh-FlhxzNtN_gM1AWpNY-ugyEU5wCqHIDqefY=410" title="USPTO Hour" target="_blank"><span>USPTO
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                                                          hosted by the
                                                          Office of the
                                                          Commissioner
                                                          for
                                                          Trademarks.</span></p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>We&#39;ll focus on our efforts to protect the
                                                          trademark
                                                          register from
                                                          suspicious
                                                          filings and
                                                          fraudulent
                                                          submissions,
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                                                          <span>Clearing
                                                          the inventory
                                                          of invalid
                                                          applications
                                                          and
                                                          registrations</span></li>
                                                          <li class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <span>Increasing
                                                          efficiencies
                                                          in filing and
                                                          case
                                                          management</span></li>
                                                          <li class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <span>Dealing
                                                          with improper
                                                          signatures in
                                                          trademark
                                                          filings</span></li>
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                                                          <span>Preventing
                                                          application
                                                          and attorney
                                                          credential
                                                          hijacking</span></li>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Alex Butterman</span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Partner<b>                  
            </b></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>T: 703-777-7319</span><span> 
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
              E-trademarks
              <a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a>
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>carla calcagno via E-trademarks<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 20, 2025 3:04 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> David Boundy <a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com" target="_blank">&lt;DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> carla calcagno <a href="mailto:cccalcagno@gmail.com" target="_blank">&lt;cccalcagno@gmail.com&gt;</a>;
              For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to
              seek legal advice. <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [E-trademarks] New security
              measures in TEAS</span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Hi David</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I think a meeting is a good idea if A/C
              will take it.</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">However, IMHO, I think one letter that
              first reflects the general theme that PTO is doing things
              that could be improved per the stated goals of admin (
              cost/efficiency/etc) ; and then states these in bullet
              form would be helpful for new AC  and would set an agenda
              for the meeting ( if he will take it).</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully, this will be an
                opportunity to have someone look at these issues with a
                fresh eye.  </p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Regards</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Carla</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 2:14<span>\u202f</span>PM
              David Boundy &lt;<a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com" target="_blank">DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">This letter should be about one
                  topic.</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">But once Mr Squires is confirmed
                  and sworn in, I could easily see a pilgrimage to meet
                  with him to raise one general issue (failure to
                  observe Paperwork Reduction Act and President Trump&#39;s
                  executive orders on rulemaking) and presented these
                  not as separate issues, but as a pattern.  I have some
                  paying work that has to get done, but staring next
                  week I can help set up a mechanism for collecting
                  these issues.</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">David</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 1:28<span>\u202f</span>PM
                  carla calcagno via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote:</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Carl</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> And perhaps we can also
                      include a number of other items that are vexing.
                      If this new AC is supposed to be trying to effect
                      cost efficiency and lack of waste, there are a
                      number of regs that clearly make no sense and we
                      also can complain about systems that are not
                      working</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:38<span>\u202f</span>AM
                      Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:</p>
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                      <p>Seems to me that something needs to be done to
                        help the (Acting) Commissioner for Trademarks
                        get a clue.</p>
                      <p>I wonder if some listserv member can volunteer
                        to draft up a letter and then we can collect
                        signatures and send it to the Acting
                        Commissioner.</p>
                      <p>Bullet points might include:</p>
                      <ul type="disc">
                        <li class="MsoNormal">
                          yes we understand your good intentions in
                          trying to slow down the bad actors who try to
                          hijack trademark files at the USPTO</li>
                        <li class="MsoNormal">
                          what you are doing now is just plain wrong</li>
                      </ul>
                      <ul type="disc">
                        <ul type="circle">
                          <li class="MsoNormal">
                            it wrongly treats the former practitioner
                            (who by your own policy is presumed to no
                            longer be the attorney) as having veto power
                            over changes to a file</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">
                            it fails to recognize that sometimes the
                            very reason why the applicant or registrant
                            is making a change is due to some difficult
                            situation relating to the former
                            practitioner</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">
                            your own policy that presumes that the
                            practitioner is no longer in charge is often
                            wrong, but there are instances where the
                            practitioner is in fact no longer in charge,
                            in which case there is just no question that
                            the former practitioner ought not to be
                            given veto power over changes</li>
                        </ul>
                      </ul>
                      <ul type="disc">
                        <li class="MsoNormal">
                          if this hamfisted grant of veto power to the
                          wrong party were the sort of thing that only
                          every now and then makes trouble for the
                          filing community, and if the trouble were only
                          minor trouble, that would be one thing.  But
                          many times the present USPTO practice actively
                          harms an applicant or registrant whose need to
                          make a change to a file is urgent or pressing.</li>
                        <li class="MsoNormal">
                          You need to pull the plug on what you have
                          just done with this hamfisted grant of veto
                          power to the wrong party</li>
                        <li class="MsoNormal">
                          We invite you to get in touch with us and
                          share with us some of the internal workings of
                          your systems, and maybe we could help you come
                          up with a good way to serve your
                          well-intentioned goal given how your systems
                          are set up.</li>
                      </ul>
                      <p>Of course one would have to find polite ways to
                        say this stuff.</p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/20/2025 7:23 AM, Alan
                          Taboada via E-trademarks wrote:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">If the attorney(s) of
                            record being replaced no longer represent
                            the client (which might be in fact or per
                            USPTO policy of treating representation as
                            being ended), how do they have any authority
                            (or in some cases even knowledge) to approve
                            or disprove the change in power of attorney
                            request?</p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                              E-trademarks
                              <a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a>
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rosie Yang via
                              E-trademarks<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 19, 2025 6:07
                              PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners.
                              This is not for laypersons to seek legal
                              advice.
                              <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">&lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a><br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> Rosie Yang <a href="mailto:rosieyang1@gmail.com" target="_blank">&lt;rosieyang1@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] New
                              security measures in TEAS</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Exactly.  This
                                  change fails to take into
                                  consideration the fact that requiring
                                  the approval of prior counsel affects
                                  the ability to meet deadlines if the
                                  change in counsel is happening close
                                  in time to a deadline (not that
                                  uncommon).  And, just in general, if
                                  the reason for the change in
                                  representation is because the
                                  relationship with the former attorney
                                  has become strained in some way, or if
                                  the former attorney cannot grant
                                  approval for some reason, an applicant
                                  should not be blocked from moving
                                  their application forward just because
                                  the prior attorney does not grant
                                  approval for whatever reason.  </p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Under the system
                                  we&#39;ve all been using up until now, the
                                  prior attorney receives notice of the
                                  change once it goes through, which
                                  gives opportunity to fix unauthorized
                                  changes.  The new requirement appears
                                  to increase rather than decrease risks
                                  to applicants.</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Rosanne Yang</p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">InfoLawGroup
                                      LLP</p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:ryang@infolawgroup.com" target="_blank">ryang@infolawgroup.com</a></p>
                                  </div>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">614-547-9346</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 19,
                                  2025 at 6:01<span>\u202f</span>PM Luke Adam
                                  via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                  wrote:</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">I fear this
                                        problematic change by the USPTO
                                        is the cause for a sticky
                                        situation we find ourselves in
                                        for a client.  A CAR was filed
                                        and we are waiting to have TSDR
                                        and the related systems update
                                        (since Monday).  But a Petition
                                        to the Director is needed soon,
                                        and cannot be filed because it
                                        contains the previous attorney
                                        information and it cannot be
                                        updated.  An odd situation.  </p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                        E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                        on behalf of Gerry J. Elman via
                                        E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                        <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 19,
                                        2025 2:35 PM<br>
                                        <b>To:</b> For trademark
                                        practitioners. This is not for
                                        laypersons to seek legal advice.
                                        &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                        <b>Cc:</b> Gerry J. Elman &lt;<a href="mailto:gerry@elman.com" target="_blank">gerry@elman.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                        <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                        [E-trademarks] New security
                                        measures in TEAS </p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Looks like the
                                            USPTO is seeking to stem the
                                            tide of bogus changes of
                                            representation by adding a
                                            new layer of approval to
                                            document </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">such changes.</span></p>
                                      </div>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">But wouldn&#39;t it
                                            have been better practice to
                                            announce the change to the
                                            practitioner community when
                                            the change was implemented? 
                                            And to have consulted with
                                            the Office&#39;s Advisory Board
                                            to facilitate smoother
                                            transition?</span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                                      </div>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">-Gerry Elman </span></p>
                                      </div>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Elman IP </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Denton, Texas</span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Sent from my
                                              T-Mobile 5G Device</span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">--------
                                            Original message --------</span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">From: Dale
                                            Quisenberry via E-trademarks
                                            &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                          </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Date: 6/19/25
                                            3:05 PM (GMT-06:00)
                                          </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">To: &quot;For
                                            trademark practitioners.
                                            This is not for laypersons
                                            to seek legal advice.&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                          </span></p>
                                      </div>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Cc: Dale
                                            Quisenberry &lt;<a href="mailto:dale@quisenberrylaw.com" target="_blank">dale@quisenberrylaw.com</a>&gt;
                                          </span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Subject: Re:
                                            [E-trademarks] New security
                                            measures in TEAS
                                          </span></p>
                                      </div>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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                                          <p><span lang="EN-GB">Agreed!</span></p>
                                          <p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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                                              <p>C. Dale Quisenberry</p>
                                              <p>Quisenberry Law PLLC</p>
                                              <p>13910 Champion Forest
                                                Drive, Suite 203</p>
                                              <p>Houston, Texas 77069</p>
                                              <p>(832) 680.5000 (office)</p>
                                              <p>(832) 680.1000 (mobile)</p>
                                              <p>(832) 680.5555
                                                (facsimile)</p>
                                              <p><a href="https://link.edgepilot.com/s/a780576b/dz6cEQXwR0CAiOmzQ3lWNA?u=http://www.quisenberrylaw.com/" target="_blank">https://link.edgepilot.com/s/a780576b/dz6cEQXwR0CAiOmzQ3lWNA?u=http://www.quisenberrylaw.com/</a></p>
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                                                  <p><b><span lang="EN-GB">From:
                                                      </span></b><span lang="EN-GB">E-trademarks
                                                      &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                                      on behalf of carla
                                                      calcagno via
                                                      E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                      <b>Date: </b>Thursday,
                                                      19 June 2025 at
                                                      3:02</span><span lang="EN-GB">\u202f</span><span lang="EN-GB">pm<br>
                                                      <b>To: </b>For
                                                      trademark
                                                      practitioners.
                                                      This is not for
                                                      laypersons to seek
                                                      legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                      <b>Cc: </b>carla
                                                      calcagno &lt;<a href="mailto:cccalcagno@gmail.com" target="_blank">cccalcagno@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                      <b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                                      [E-trademarks] New
                                                      security measures
                                                      in TEAS</span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p><span lang="EN-GB">For
                                                      any PTO staffers,
                                                      this is, in my
                                                      opinion, yet
                                                      another recent
                                                      change creating
                                                      inefficiency,
                                                      undue cost,
                                                      inefficiency and
                                                      waste.  If the
                                                      client has signed
                                                      the power of
                                                      attorney, legally
                                                      that is all that
                                                      should be
                                                      required.  The
                                                      solution is more
                                                      onerous to
                                                      whatever problem
                                                      you are trying to
                                                      fix.</span></p>
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                                                    <p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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                                                    <p><span lang="EN-GB">Please,
                                                        change it back!</span></p>
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                                                </div>
                                                <p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p><span lang="EN-GB">On
                                                        Thu, Jun 19,
                                                        2025 at 3:10</span><span lang="EN-GB">\u202f</span><span lang="EN-GB">PM
                                                        Rosie Yang via
                                                        E-trademarks
                                                        &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                                        wrote:</span></p>
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                                                      <p><span lang="EN-GB">We
                                                          tried to file
                                                          a CAR form
                                                          yesterday, and
                                                          TEAS was
                                                          insisting that
                                                          it had to go
                                                          to the prior
                                                          attorney for
                                                          approval, with
                                                          the
                                                          explanation
                                                          suggesting
                                                          that the prior
                                                          attorney might
                                                          even need to
                                                          sponsor/associate
                                                          with us in
                                                          some way for
                                                          us to file
                                                          it.  The
                                                          explanation
                                                          was as
                                                          follows:</span></p>
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                                                        <p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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                                                      <div>
                                                        <p><i><span lang="EN-GB">You
                                                          will need
                                                          access to the
                                                          correspondence
                                                          email address
                                                          or one of the
                                                          courtesy email
                                                          addresses you
                                                          entered
                                                          in your
                                                          application to
                                                          receive the
                                                          authorization
                                                          link. Contact
                                                          your email
                                                          provider if
                                                          you need to
                                                          reset your
                                                          email address
                                                          password.</span></i></p>
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                                                      <div>
                                                        <p><i><span lang="EN-GB">If
                                                          there is an
                                                          attorney
                                                          representing
                                                          the trademark
                                                          owner, use the
                                                          sponsorship
                                                          tool to
                                                          connect with
                                                          them. If
                                                          you&#39;re an
                                                          attorney, you
                                                          can request
                                                          association.
                                                          Attorney
                                                          support staff
                                                          can request
                                                          sponsorship.</span></i></p>
                                                      </div>
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                                                        <p><i><span lang="EN-GB"><br>
                                                          You can save
                                                          your progress
                                                          by using the
                                                          &quot;Save form&quot;
                                                          link below.
                                                          You can send
                                                          the saved form
                                                          to someone
                                                          else with the
                                                          correct
                                                          authorization
                                                          to submit.</span></i></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p><span lang="EN-GB">We
                                                          sent it to
                                                          both the teas@
                                                          email account
                                                          and the
                                                          Trademark
                                                          Assistance
                                                          Center, but
                                                          have not yet
                                                          received any
                                                          response on
                                                          what to do.</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p><span lang="EN-GB">Rosanne
                                                          Yang</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p><span lang="EN-GB">InfoLawGroup
                                                          LLP</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="mailto:ryang@infolawgroup.com" target="_blank">ryang@infolawgroup.com</a></span></p>
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                                                        <p><span lang="EN-GB">614-547-9346</span></p>
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                                                    <p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p><span lang="EN-GB">On
                                                          Thu, Jun 19,
                                                          2025 at 2:53</span><span lang="EN-GB">\u202f</span><span lang="EN-GB">PM
                                                          Shawn M.
                                                          Dellegar via
                                                          E-trademarks
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:</span></p>
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                                                          <p>I had the
                                                          same thing
                                                          yesterday for
                                                          the first
                                                          time. TEAS
                                                          sent another
                                                          link to prior
                                                          appointed
                                                          attorney for
                                                          approval.
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p> </p>
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                                                          <p><b>Shawn M. Dellegar</b></p>
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                                                          <p>222 N. Detroit Ave., Ste. 600</p>
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                                                          <p>direct line:</p>
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                                                          <p><a href="tel:918.592.9807" target="_blank">918.592.9807</a></p>
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                                                          <p><a href="mailto:shawn.dellegar@crowedunlevy.com" target="_blank">shawn.dellegar@crowedunlevy.com</a></p>
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                                                          attorney-client
                                                          privilege
                                                          and/or other
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                                                          protections. 
                                                          If you believe
                                                          that it has
                                                          been sent to
                                                          you in error,
                                                          do not read
                                                          it.  Please
                                                          reply to the
                                                          sender that
                                                          you have
                                                          received the
                                                          message in
                                                          error and then
                                                          delete it. 
                                                          Thank you. </p>
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                                                          <p><b>From:</b>
                                                          E-trademarks
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                                          <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>Katherine
                                                          Koenig via
                                                          E-trademarks<br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Thursday, June
                                                          19, 2025 1:40
                                                          PM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b>
                                                          E-trademarks
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <b>Cc:</b>
                                                          Katherine
                                                          Koenig &lt;<a href="mailto:katherine@koenigipworks.com" target="_blank">katherine@koenigipworks.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          [E-trademarks]
                                                          New security
                                                          measures in
                                                          TEAS</p>
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                                                          <p><strong><span>ALERT:</span></strong>
                                                          Email contains
                                                          attachments
                                                          from external
                                                          sender.   Be
                                                          cautious.
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                                                          <p> </p>
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                                                          <p>Has anyone
                                                          else been
                                                          required to
                                                          seek
                                                          authorization
                                                          by the
                                                          applicant in
                                                          order to file
                                                          a new POA? 
                                                          When there\u2019s
                                                          another
                                                          appointed
                                                          firm, I\u2019ve
                                                          always been
                                                          able to upload
                                                          a signed POA
                                                          and make the
                                                          change without
                                                          further
                                                          authorization. 
                                                          Yesterday,
                                                          however, I was
                                                          required to
                                                          email the
                                                          applicant for
                                                          authorization
                                                          even though
                                                          they\u2019d already
                                                          signed a POA,
                                                          which I
                                                          uploaded as
                                                          always. 
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          <p>Best
                                                          regards,</p>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          <p>Katherine</p>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          <p>Dr.
                                                          Katherine
                                                          Koenig</p>
                                                          <p><i>Registered
                                                          Patent
                                                          Attorney</i></p>
                                                          <p>Koenig IP
                                                          Works, PLLC</p>
                                                          <p>2208
                                                          Mariner Dr.</p>
                                                          <p>Fort
                                                          Lauderdale, FL
                                                          33316</p>
                                                          <p>(954)
                                                          903-1699</p>
                                                          <p><a href="mailto:katherine@koenigipworks.com" target="_blank">katherine@koenigipworks.com</a></p>
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                                                          <p><i>Targeted
                                                          Intellectual
                                                          Property
                                                          Strategy</i></p>
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                                                          <p><i>The
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                                                          the employee
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                                                          Please
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                                                          <p><b><span>David
                                                          Boundy </span></b><span>|
                                                          Partner <span>| </span>Potomac Law
                                                          Group, PLLC</span><span></span></p>
                                                          <p><span>P.O.
                                                          Box 590638,
                                                          Newton, MA
                                                           02459</span><span></span></p>
                                                          <p><span>Tel
                                                          (646) 472-9737 </span><span>|</span><span> Fax:
                                                          (202) 318-7707</span></p>
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