<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:16px;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif">I've been in somewhat similar situations before, and I fully endorse everything that Susan said. I've never seen a problem arise when taking the steps that she's outlined.<div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><font color="#000000">Cheers,</font></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"> </span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt">Sam<span> Castree, III</span></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:medium"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><span><i>Sam Castree Law, LLC</i></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>3421 W. Elm St.</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>McHenry, IL 60050</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>(815) 344-6300</i></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></span><br></span></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:01\u202fAM Crane, Susan via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg3448930885430046125">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I see no significant risk in the foreign corporation licensing its US LLC from a registration perspective. A business is entitled to decide it wants to own a mark in the US, and
subsequently form a US entity to market the product or service. The fact that it solely holds the license does not prove lack of bona fide intent and more than a US holding company filing for marks and then licensing a US sub would.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">That being said, if the US LLC will be paying royalties to the foreign Inc., there are various tax considerations that will come into play.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If the end goal is to have the US LLC own the mark, than your second scenario is also plausible \u2013 use under license, SOU filed, then mark assigned. And much less risky than an
assignment now that potentially could be challenged as an invalid transfer of an ITU.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,114,206)">Susan L. Crane<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dale Quisenberry via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 20, 2025 10:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dale Quisenberry <<a href="mailto:dale@quisenberrylaw.com" target="_blank">dale@quisenberrylaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Assignment of ITU application -- exception<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">Listmates, Client filed ITU application in name of XYZ, Inc. (a foreign corporation) Mark has not been used yet. Client has now formed XYZ, LLC (a US based LLC).
Client wants to know if it can assign the ITU application from the Inc. to the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Listmates,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Client filed ITU application in name of XYZ, Inc. (a foreign corporation)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Mark has not been used yet.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Client has now formed XYZ, LLC (a US based LLC).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Client wants to know if it can assign the ITU application from the Inc. to the LLC.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The starting point is no, but I\u2019m exploring the exception in 15 USC 1060(a)(1):<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">A registered mark or a mark for which an application to register has been filed shall be assignable with
the good will of the business in which the mark is used, or with that part of the good will of the business connected with the use of and symbolized by the mark. Notwithstanding the preceding sentence, no application to register a mark under <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1051*b__;Iw!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!kXhFJ1aThj6rz61B_-h67sYyOy3if9fvkOF27u6oNVBs414gV-huwbIvlvuzuTp2csQZVOWJc6nUCyrw9XFXnEAvSuMYJ1M$" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(0,28,114)">section
1051(b) of this title</span></a> shall be assignable prior to the filing of an amendment under <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1051*c__;Iw!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!kXhFJ1aThj6rz61B_-h67sYyOy3if9fvkOF27u6oNVBs414gV-huwbIvlvuzuTp2csQZVOWJc6nUCyrw9XFXnEAvUavgsHQ$" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(0,28,114)">section
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1051(a) of this title</span></a> or the filing of the verified statement of use under <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1051*d__;Iw!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!kXhFJ1aThj6rz61B_-h67sYyOy3if9fvkOF27u6oNVBs414gV-huwbIvlvuzuTp2csQZVOWJc6nUCyrw9XFXnEAvh83zxao$" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(0,28,114)">section
1051(d) of this title</span></a>, </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:red">except for an assignment to a successor to the business of the applicant, or portion thereof, to which the mark
pertains, if that business is ongoing and existing.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">So, at the moment, the LLC does not appear to be a \u201csuccessor to the business of the [Inc.], or a portion thereof, to which the mark, if that business
is ongoing and existing.\u201d Inc. has not started a business that uses the mark yet.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">So I\u2019m wondering which entity should use the mark first.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I believe the LLC is the entity that will be operating the business that uses the mark.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">So one option is to put a license agreement in place between the Inc. and the LLC so that the use by the LLC is for the benefit of the Inc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Does that open up any resulting registration to attack that the Inc. did not have bona fide intent to use?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">If so is the only way to navigate this to have the Inc. use the mark, then file the statement of use, then assign the mark and goodwill to the LLC?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Has anyone been down this road before?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Dale<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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