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    <p>A good illustration of this concept is yesterday's TTABlog report
      on whether "Buckeye" is a geographic identifier for Ohio. The
      examining attorney said yes but the TTAB said no. Make sure to
      read John's comment.
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/3/2025 11:05 AM, Edward Timberlake
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            style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">A mark
            formed from parts of the names of two different people
            doesn't identify a living individual . . .  unless it does.</div>
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            style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Wouldn't
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            style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">And, of
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            style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">It seems
            to me the question is: 1) What do we think 2) the Trademark
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            style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">It's easy
            to say parts of names aren't names, but one could perhaps
            imagine a situation (depending on the chefs, and the names,
            and . . . everything) where a mark made from parts of two
            names might reasonably be expected to identify two
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 1:55\u202fPM
          Orvis via E-trademarks &lt;<a
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                style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">No, because a
                restaurant name formed from parts of two people's names
                does not identify a living individual.</span> <br>
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                <p>Jul 3, 2025 1:37:00 PM Dale Quisenberry via
                  E-trademarks &lt;<a
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                      is no, but curious to know if there is any rule or
                      case on this that others may know about.</span></p>
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                          Law PLLC</span></p>
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                                style="color:black;font-size:12pt">From:
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                              style="color:black;font-size:12pt">E-trademarks
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                              on behalf of Esther Lee via E-trademarks
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                              <b>Date: </b>Thursday, 3 July 2025 at
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                              <b>Cc: </b>Esther Lee &lt;<a
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                              <b>Subject: </b>[E-trademarks] Living
                              person's consent when using a part of
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                              from two chefs' names, as stated on the
                              website. If a restaurant owner wants to
                              trademark the business name, does he need
                              to include written consent from the two
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