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<b><span style="color:black;font-size:12pt">From: </span></b><span style="color:black;font-size:12pt">E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> on behalf of Esther Lee
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 3 July 2025 at 12:33</span><span style="color:black;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span><span style="color:black;font-size:12pt">pm<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>[E-trademarks] Living person's consent when using a part of names</span></p>
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